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18 September 2007 @ 12:23 pm
Heroes: S2 Expectations and Thoughts  
One more week until season two of Heroes premieres people, the anticipation is frakking killing me. With this, I've been thinking...which may actually be overthinking about certain things but nonetheless, this is what happens when I read too much threads about my favorite fandoms. For a time while avoiding spoilers I'd been reading upon other's reactions and reacting to their reactions, which I realized wasn't the smartest thing to do so I stopped. So in short, I've come up with some small thoughts and expectations for the second chapter begins.

None are spoilerish, except perhaps a few rumored/theorized things but not really big, so other than that I've remained spoiler-free and continue to do so. Even if I desperately want to look at something, I want to be surprised for the new season. It's more exciting that way.


To be clear, I'm not concerned over the new characters. Once we're introduced to them then I'll be making comments, but otherwise I'm focused on who we already know and who I actually care about.

Regarding Sylar's storyline, I know that we're going to see a totally different side to him this season. There's been ideas/rumors/theories that he might join up with the other Specials due to another Big Bad that's even more dangerous and will pose as a potential threat to Sylar, eventually becoming a competition. There's also been rumors about a certain new character that we'll meet that'll have Sylar become part of their mission. Whatever it is, I'm excited but nervous of what they'll do with his character in general. I don't want them to turn Sylar into a Spike (i.e. completely badass then softened/watered down into nothing but a harmless puppy); I kind of want Sylar to still be a threat to the Specials, but explored in a different light than what we've seen. Which is their intention, considering that he is now a regular on the show. I don't want his evil side to be stripped down, but I also want a more thorough exploration over his character, possibly dig deeper into his psyche. Plus, judging from the preview clip that's been released he's definitely not fluffed up and anticipates wanting to play with a "shiny new toy", so his evil tendencies aren't gone.

Since this will be focusing on the older generation and their part in the story, hopefully we might get a glimpse of his homelife, his father and whether he had any abilities that he'd inherited, giving some insight to what path Sylar may take. Also, I want more Gabriel scenes. I know that after "The Hard Part" any sort of redemption of Gabriel has been shot down, but flashback episodes can be good, or dream sequences even.

But what I'm more anticipating is the explanation of how he acquires the abilities of others, which had been the biggest mystery from last season. The ongoing joke was that Sylar was eating their brains, which isn't very plausible in itself really. Though it had been confirmed this will be explained in the first few episodes of the new season, and I can't wait for that.

Another thing I'm looking forward to is Mohinder's role this time around. I've grown quite fond of him since the beginning almost to a point of obsession but that's for another post altogether, and I'm curious as how they're going to go about his character's development. Obviously as seen in the previews that Mohinder is teaching inside a classroom (dressed in a snazzy suit, map behind him much like what we'd seen in the pilot episode), which suggests he's back to being a professor and probably providing his findings based on his father's research which has now has more evidence to go on. He certainly isn't done with locating everyone on the list, so what will become of him? Will the university reject these ideas and theories as plain mumbojumbo much like they did with his father? I still want Mohinder to be the moral compass of the series, with the voiceovers and the only individual to connect all the Specials together much like in the first season.

I kind of want him to go all Indiana Jones, y'know? Not that he wasn't before, as some have made that comparisons as his occupation and mission which are very Indiana Jones-esque in certain ways. I want him to be more rugged, getting down and dirty with his dedication on proving his father's theories, chasing after people with powers and such. That would be really awesome. But that's just my wishful thinking of possibly seeing him being all dirty, hot and sweaty in a wifebeater like he was in the first season (yes, shallow moment for wanting to see the hot prettiness, so sue me!)

I also read there might be more revealed about his family, more specifically his deceased sister, Shanti. I'm not sure I want to believe the rumors about that, or whether that news is old or whatever. But again, it's about the "generations" this season so who knows? Either way, more Mohinder is good enough for me.

There's Claire and Mr. Bennet, supposedly returning to a relatively normal life. I've read some comments concerning why Claire wants to return to a normal life when she finally had accepted her calling, that she was special. My sister and I were discussing this the other night while "How To Stop An Exploding Man" was airing on NBC, and we've concluded that she could do both. Obviously she can't just walk around going "la, la, la! My indestructibility, let me show you it!", and it wouldn't seem fair that she would go off without her family on a mission to recruit others with abilities. Claire has shown that she can lead a normal life on the outside while keeping her ability hidden from the world. Besides, now she knows she's not alone and doesn't need to feel that she is anymore, so that boosts her confidence. There's also the issue with her new boyfriend this season, West, who does have an ability also and dare I say it, she goes after those that are just like her biological father? If my reading of what his power is correctly. My expectations for Claire this season are quite simple: continue being adorable, and continue being awesome. That is all.

Curiosity has gotten the better of me as to what role Kristen Bell is going to play. Is she going to be on the good side or the bad side? Is she working with the Specials or against them? Is she the prime victim on Sylar's list as opposed to Claire somehow? I know she has a power, and is possibly connected to the past of one of the main characters, otherwise I know nothing else in regards to her involvement.

I'm also curious as what the new tagline for the first-half of the season is going to be. Last time it was "Save the Cheerleader, Save the World", then it was "Are You On The List?" and finally "How Do You Stop An Exploding Man?" One of the reasons why this show is so different is because of these taglines, which may seem hokey at the time but that's because it's pretty vague until a certain point in the story where it all comes together; like with "STCSTW" people were confused, but in the end it made perfect sense. I wonder if we'll have the same schtick this go around.


That's about it for now. There may be more coming soon, especially after the second season premiere because questions and theories? Always a good thing to write/converse about.
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Becky ("You're a Virgin Who Can't Drive.")starcrossed on September 18th, 2007 09:23 pm (UTC)
I want Sylar to become even MORE evil. I would also like flashbacks to when he was Gabriel- his childhood, just more Sylar in general.

Oh god I hope Mohinder dies in the first episode... I can't STAND him. He's so very boring.

I don't WANT Claire to be normal. I'd really like her to embrace her ability and be awesome and her powers to grow. I wonder if there's any chance she'll meet up with the finance we saw in the future or if that will never, ever be now.

I want to see Kristen be totally and completely different to Veronica. I want to see something REALLY good from Kristen to prove she can really act.
Renée: Sylar. Hot.rogueslayer452 on September 18th, 2007 09:35 pm (UTC)
I seriously want Sylar's direction to become more evil and menacing, or have a different way of going about his mission of taking abilities from others. Perhaps a slicker, more refined approach. I kind of want to learn more of his background, because he obviously inherited his power from someone right? Maybe there's more to it than meets the eye, and he could use that as an advantage of some kind.

I don't see Claire ever becoming normal, no matter how hard she fights it. Besides, now that she knows she's part of something bigger she'll definitely want to embrace it. All I know is, I want more action scenes with Claire...Hayden mentioned that they will be testing the boundaries of her ability this season, so I'm anxiously waiting for that.

I do hope Kristen's character, Elle, does justice in being opposite of Veronica. Which is what I think many people are going to be comparing her to. Maybe she'll be a baddie, which would be awesome.

Oh, why can't it be next Monday already?!
Becky ("You're a Virgin Who Can't Drive.")starcrossed on September 18th, 2007 09:38 pm (UTC)
with everything going on I hadn't realised how close it really was. YAY.

Maybe they'll be someone out there MORE evil than Sylar. That would be awesome.

I never really got the Kristen hype. She'll really have to prove herself to me ;)
Renée: BSG. Sharon.rogueslayer452 on September 18th, 2007 09:45 pm (UTC)
I know, right? I remember thinking that September was SO FAR AWAY and now it's like, only one week until. I'm squeeing with joy that my shows are coming back.

I think Tim Kring mentioned in an interview I read some time ago that there will be another Big Bad introduced which'll make Sylar look harmless in comparison. I kind of want to see a showdown between the two if that's true. This season will be pretty interesting....
D.W.: Dexterdousehere on September 19th, 2007 12:07 am (UTC)
If you remember, in the finale, Molly was talking about the one person that she couldn't find. Someone worse than the Bogeyman. That must be the Badder than Bad Big Bad(...). I'm looking forward to finding out who that is. I hope this person/thing truly is very BAD.

So I guess I can see Sylar becoming some kind of rogue that plays with the good guys sometimes. We've seen glimpses of his humanity. As long as they don't deviate from the character's primal nature in the long run. Sylar rocked last season!

I thought KB's character was said to be a baddie...?

Honestly, I'm still waiting and hoping for that Peter/Sylar showdown.
Renée: Sylar. Hot.rogueslayer452 on September 19th, 2007 12:45 am (UTC)
Yeah I remember that, and that's what I'm really anticipating for. Molly had mentioned that she didn't want to think about this other "boogeyman" because he could see her when she thought of him zomg could it be Voldemort?. Which ultimately is freaky when you think about it, and I can't wait to see who this guy is and what he does that makes him even more threatening than Sylar.

Sylar did rock last season, and it was nice to see that the writing, direction and ZQ really brought in the depth and mystery to the character rather have him be a cardboard evil that nobody cared about. The thing about his character is that he can return to that small ounce of humanity left, even though it'd disappeared after the events of "The Hard Part". But Sylar is still Gabriel...and it would be nice to explore that side of him again, because while yes he's bad you still emphasize with him and understand his motives, even if it is radically wrong and completely psycho. They've managed to make him into the best serial killer worth sympathizing over without overdoing it, which is why I hope they don't ruin his character this season. Though Sylar becoming rogue and reluctantly going along with some other character would be interesting indeed...however I've always found him a lonewolf, aside from teaming up with Mohinder when he pretended to be Zane. But if there is a new Big Bad that is even Bigger and Badder than Sylar, he would have to join up with someone to weigh out that competition.

I don't know if Kristen's character is a baddie or not...I've avoiding getting too much into who is playing who for this season.

I'm looking foward to that Sylar/Peter confrontation as well. People were so disappointed in the finale because they thought that would be the final showdown and I'm like um, no. The first season was all about stopping the explosion. Besides both Peter and Sylar still have the radioactive ability and enough hatred for one another, so the fight WILL happen. Just later.
jirucloud on September 19th, 2007 01:27 am (UTC)
wait a sec... west?? was he the one with the video camera? what are his powers??? *flails*

ooh~ more mohinder! but, shanti? I kind of want to know more about her and about that boy with the soccer ball... Heroes: India Edition would just be awesome in itself... Mohinder should just have his own show where he was saying cool voice-over stuff all the time and Sylar could be there too so we could watch it together ^.^

oh, do you think Claire will die her hair brown for her new 'normal' bit like she did in that one episode where she had run away?

Also, wouldn't it be cool if Sylar's parents knew Mohinder's??? Or they met once? you know how they love the small-world complex on this show, lol.

I don't want Sylar to be part of the team... thats so lame, and I don't want him to be all boring and not-strong either... hmm... I hope they do something cool with him ^.^

Okay, so Heroes comes on next week? Monday? 9pm? Gah! Its so soon! We'll definitely have to talk about it all afterwards more! ♥
Renée: Mohinder. Mourning.rogueslayer452 on September 19th, 2007 02:05 am (UTC)
The boy with the videocamera was named Zach at Claire's old school. He's not there anymore because the actor is on another show. West is an entirely different character introduced and will become Claire's boyfriend (or is already, since S2 starts four months after the events of the finale).

I don't know about the Shanti business, it could be nothing from what I've read. But I would like to know more about her and what her power supposedly was, or more importantly how the disease/illness she had came about and if it might pose a threat. The boy with the soccor ball was named Sanjog Iyer, who had the ability of dream manipulation. He was only featured in those two episodes which were highly important for Mohinder to figure out which path he should choose. Although Mohinder could encounter more Specials in India, you never know. Hee, Heroes: India Edition would be sweet. More Mohinder, all the time baby! ;D

I don't think Claire will dye her hair. That was only for the possible Dark Future, where everyone became bitter and cynical, and it was merely to disguise her appearance in case anyone was looking for her. This time, I think Claire will get into the action instead of staying away from it. At least, I hope so.

Oh, the Gray family knowing the Suresh family? Well, anything's possible. Though there are some discusses that perhaps Sylar and Peter are relatives of some kind. Since anyone can become a Petrelli, it seems *cough*Peter&Claire*cough*.

Sylar joining becoming part of the good guys? Not likely. However, reluctnatly teaming up with a character or two for warding off someone he doesn't like, that's believable. Especially if he uses that to his advantage, like when he teamed up with Mohinder posing as "Zane Taylor", he acted as though he was helping to find the other people with abilities, which he was, only to steal their powers. I don't think Sylar would say to Peter or HRG, "Hey, I know I beat you up and all, but could we be friends until this other guy goes away?" He could potentially be working underneath them without them knowing, or working for someone else who is working for the them. It's hard to really say, but Sylar wouldn't go good unless it was absolutely necessary. He adapts to his surroundings, and if it was his only option he would do so.

Next Monday, 9:00pm. It'll be a doozy, just wait and see! I'll have a reminder for everyone on Sunday, because I know people will be so excited for it.
jirucloud on September 19th, 2007 05:52 am (UTC)
oh okay! I haven't seen any of the previews or anything for S2 so I'm like 'wtf??' I thought Zach was interesting enough and he stuck by her... did he die and I just didn't realize it?

Maybe Sylar sneezed on her? lol, it would definitely be interesting and I would definitely like to see more of the India group! Sanjog was so cool too! He seems like he could be Mohinder's son, a bit...

well, she just didn't feel like making the effort and marrying him to get the last name, you know? lol. I still don't like how they made that connection... Paire was so cute!

That sounds more reasonable... although, someone more evil than Sylar? It doesn't sound all that realistic... and I don't want Sylar to become a henchman or be pushed to the side, either... I wonder how it'll play out? hahaha, you make him sound like a chameleon! ^.^

I'll remember... though, the series finale of my other show comes on at the same time! I guess I'll have to catch my other show when it reruns later that night, lol. And I'll probably still need the reminder, so thank you! lol.
Renée: Sylar. Hot.rogueslayer452 on September 19th, 2007 06:12 am (UTC)
Zach didn't die, he was just...forgotten about I guess. After all that Claire did to regain her friendship with him, the Bennet house burnt down and then everything went on from there. There was no more Claire and Zach interaction, because they focused more on the bigger aspect of the show. Which I'm upset about, I liked their friendship since the beginning. Oh well.

I'm more interested at what happened with the connection between Mohinder and Molly, because he was really maternal with her in the end of the first season. He was her protector, considering he saved her life from the blood transfusion. They were so cute together! In my mind, he adopted Molly Walker and took her back to India to live with him and they were a team in locating other Specials in the world.

I don't think it's far from plausible that there is someone worse than Sylar, considering that having Sylar being the only threat to everyone else would get old rather quick. Of course, anything Sylar-related should NEVER get old because he is hot and awesome, heh, however we need another potential baddie to up the stakes. Probably this new Big Bad could even threaten Sylar, not make him part of his team since I don't see Sylar as a henchman either. I mean, Sylar has shown himself to have a sympathetic side and shown remorse, his humanity. Perhaps this new bad guy is just pure, unadulterated evil, with no soul or humanity whatsoever. Very different from Sylar. That would be interesting to see. So yeah, it's not entirely unrealistic for another Big Bad to enter the scene -- it would be unrealistic if Sylar willingly went along with this new Big Bad. Because Sylar works his mojo alone, and is nobody's lackey.

Of course Sylar's a chameleon. Or a cockroach, see the symbolism within the show for that one. That's one of the messages of the show, of human evolution which Sylar demonstrates perfectly well. Another one of the many reasons why I love him. ♥

Don't worry, I'll certainly remind you (like you could forget though, it's Heroes for goodness sakes!) XD
Elise: rememberbehrbemine on September 19th, 2007 07:56 pm (UTC)
Even if I desperately want to look at something, I want to be surprised for the new season. It's more exciting that way.

I've always been such a stickler for staying spoiler-free. It really is more excited when you're surprised, and can genuinely go "wow" or "wtf?" Though I've become a little more lax as of late, basically because I haven't felt like shooting those who brings spoilers my way. It'd be a little wrong to attack them for it, lol. But I know what you mean. It's hard to resist the urge, but in the end, it's always worth it for me.

I don't want them to turn Sylar into a Spike (i.e. completely badass then softened/watered down into nothing but a harmless puppy)

Yes, for that and more reasons, let's let Spike be an anomaly of television. *almost freaks out thinking of his face again* My Spike! Okay, I am calm. ;)

But that's just my wishful thinking of possibly seeing him being all dirty, hot and sweaty in a wifebeater like he was in the first season (yes, shallow moment for wanting to see the hot prettiness, so sue me!)

Hee. It's um... a wonderful thing to the imagination. I only wish I knew how to match character names to faces -- but that will come as I become a fan this season, for sure.

Curiosity has gotten the better of me as to what role Kristen Bell is going to play.

I so adore my little Kristen! I'm excited, and admit that was a strong pull in your wooing me to the Hero side of NBC.

...like with "STCSTW" people were confused, but in the end it made perfect sense. I wonder if we'll have the same schtick this go around.

This show sounds more and more interesting with every line you unveil. I love that aspect of television that a strong series can pull off -- take you from misunderstanding and confusion to complete awe when it's all unveiled in the perfect way. 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer' was that way for me. I'll never get over some of the surprises, the life lessons, I learned from the tag lines on that show.

Ahh, you've given me the 'Heroes' bug! Hurry torrents, hurry! Monday, come closer!
Renée: Gabriel Gray. Cute!rogueslayer452 on September 19th, 2007 08:48 pm (UTC)
It's always so tempting with all these information and spoilers concerning the new season, of what's to come and what's to be expected. I'm not usually like this with my other fandoms, but I consider Heroes to be one of the few I have to remain unspoiled for. It's frustrating but as you said, it's rewarding in the end because you have the surprised reaction.

I so adore my little Kristen! I'm excited, and admit that was a strong pull in your wooing me to the Hero side of NBC.

Hee, I'm glad to have wooed you over to the Dark Side to this fandom. Another face you'll recognize in the show is Milo Ventimiglia, who played Jess in Gilmore Girls. Although he's VERY different from Jess, and in a good way too. In fact, I think you'll discover lots of new faces and characters/actors you'll love (which I have to say, this entire cast is so adorable together, on screen and off).

This show sounds more and more interesting with every line you unveil. I love that aspect of television that a strong series can pull off -- take you from misunderstanding and confusion to complete awe when it's all unveiled in the perfect way.

This is precisely what Heroes is. There are parts where you go "huh? what?" but as the story unfolds you realize it all connects together; even though sometimes it may not be clear, your mind can wrap around the events that led up to certain things, with characters or their actions and so forth. It's a very well-constructed series that keeps you guessing and keeps you enthralled. It just pulls you in and doesn't let you go, not even after the finale. You just keep wanting more, and that's exactly why I love this show.

I can't wait for you to start watching! Oh, and if you're familiar with comic books at all I should tell you that Heroes kind of follows a comic book formula. There is also an online graphic novel which fills the void of missing scenes, or general background info on characters. It's really awesome.
Elise: sasha butterflybehrbemine on September 22nd, 2007 01:12 am (UTC)
It's always so tempting with all these information and spoilers concerning the new season, of what's to come and what's to be expected.

It is, it really is. And I'll tell you, one reason why spoilers are becoming more intriguing to me is because of fanfiction. Taking a spoiler or, better yet, just a rumor that's circulating around, and being able to interpret it your own way in your own writing, to compare to what actually happens on the show... that's the ultimate geek!thrill for me. Makes it a bit harder to stay away.

Another face you'll recognize in the show is Milo Ventimiglia, who played Jess in Gilmore Girls. Although he's VERY different from Jess, and in a good way too.

Thank God. I've known about him being a part of the cast, and have talked to others about him who have said the same thing, that he's nothing like Jess. It makes me wonder, "So, I could actually like a character with his face? Weird..." Never saw that coming.

You just keep wanting more, and that's exactly why I love this show.

Mm. I'm excited for it.

There is also an online graphic novel which fills the void of missing scenes, or general background info on characters.

Wow, that does sound awesome. Do you have a link, m'dear?
Renée: Gabriel Gray. Cute!rogueslayer452 on September 22nd, 2007 01:40 am (UTC)
Taking a spoiler or, better yet, just a rumor that's circulating around, and being able to interpret it your own way in your own writing, to compare to what actually happens on the show... that's the ultimate geek!thrill for me. Makes it a bit harder to stay away

Oh, I totally know what you mean. I saw a preview for Heroes S2 and there is a particular scene that is itching to be written about, even if I don't know the exact context of what's happening. The power of the imagination, making potential spoilers more fun, even if I don't want to be spoiled at all. This is the power of the Internet; I actually had a talk with my mom and she mentioned that before the Internet the only spoilers were from newspapers or magazine articles or interviews on television. Now with the Internet, you can get spoilers in a matter of seconds. It does ruin the fun of being surprised, though.

Believe me, I didn't like Jess from Gilmore Girls either. But you'll end up liking, or possibly loving, his role as Peter Petrelli. Hell, I didn't he recognize that it was Jess until after realizing who was playing him (either that's my memory going blank at the time or that Milo is an extremely amazing actor). You'll be surprised at what he brings to the table, and that goes for all the other actors/characters too.

The link to the online graphic novels are right here. Though the traffic of the site may be slow at times (happens because it gets visited often), so you can get them easier from here. ;D Although you may have to watch the episodes first before reading them, since there are some spoilers to the first season, unless you WANT to read beforehand. Either way, it's your choice m'dear.
Elise: sasha butterflybehrbemine on September 22nd, 2007 05:54 am (UTC)
This is the power of the Internet; I actually had a talk with my mom and she mentioned that before the Internet the only spoilers were from newspapers or magazine articles or interviews on television.

It really is incredible how much knowledge for all kinds of things and obsessions can be found in, like you said, a matter of seconds. Technology is amazing.

It does ruin the fun of being surprised, though.

Agreed, yes. This year, I want to remain completely unspoiled for all that I'm watching... We'll see if I can do that. Some people just love to speculate on future events in shows and forget I hate spoilers before revealing one. Ah! It's a rush to hide the eyes, lol.

Hell, I didn't he recognize that it was Jess until after realizing who was playing him (either that's my memory going blank at the time or that Milo is an extremely amazing actor).

Wow... I want to see this in action. Just a few more days now, yay!

Although you may have to watch the episodes first before reading them, since there are some spoilers to the first season, unless you WANT to read beforehand.

Thanks for the links, hun. And yeah, I'll wait till I get caught up before delving deeper, but it'll be fun when I do.
Jbeauty_awake on September 20th, 2007 02:26 am (UTC)
Well Girl... I am as excited as you are. Especially with the Milo and Hayden dating rumour floating around...So,I am gonna just wait. And watch cause really I am to tired to try and figure out what they are really doing... I am most excited for David Anders!
Renée: Gabriel Gray. Cute!rogueslayer452 on September 20th, 2007 03:03 am (UTC)
Heh, I honestly don't think they're dating. They could be just really close, like everyone else is in the Heroes cast (seriously, they are ALL very affectionate towards one another). They are adorable either way though, and rumors aside it would be cute if they did hook up. It'd be like "now Peter/Claire can become canon! Haha!" XD

Yay for David Anders! Can't wait for his role.
Jennifer: deanw_lipsjenniferkaos on September 23rd, 2007 01:24 am (UTC)
I want to see Peter come back. I want to see his bond with his brother grow even more this season. Not in any incest way but just as brothers.

I can't wait to see Claire and see if she can get back to being a high school girl again. And also, how her family is able to get back to normal life.

Is Sylar coming back this season? Or do you know?
Renée: Sylar. Hot.rogueslayer452 on September 23rd, 2007 01:50 am (UTC)
The Peter/Nathan dynamic is just awesome, and there will be no doubt their bond will grow since the finale. Of course there lies the question of how they both survived the explosion. But either way, it should be interesting.

I don't think Claire or her family will ever have a normal life. I kind of want Claire to become part of the action and embrace her ability while living her own life. I liked how her character developed over the course of the first season; confused and afraid of what she could do, labeling herself as a freakshow and believing she was alone. But once getting out there, meeting other Specials like herself she realized she wasn't alone, and accepted herself for who she was. I kind of want her to do the very same thing this season, as well.

Sylar is actually a regular on the show now, so of course he's coming back. :D :D