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09 September 2008 @ 04:42 pm
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It's been a long time since I rewatched Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and I just had a few selected episodes from season three and man, nostalgic much? I think out of all the seasons the third was the best. I mean, the finale was epic. Faith is wicked awesome, and everything about it was just perfect.

I did watch Samuari Girl this weekend, though I'll do a proper review post later because it seems that Fate didn't want me to watch the last two hours of the miniseries. My cable crapped out the minute before the first hour and didn't return until the last minute of the final hour. Major suckage and utter fail, cable. Oh well, I'm sure ABC Family is going to rerun it anyway, or I can find ways to watch it online. But I will say I was pleasantly surprised by the series. It's nothing hugely spectacular, and there are differences from the books as I expected there to be, but overall I was intrigued and entertained. But more about that once I finish the final parts and review on them.

Anyway, last night was the premiere and return of TSCC!

Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles 2.01 "Samson and Delilah"

They started off with a bang, picking up where the finale from last season left off. The jeep exploding while Cameron was inside while we're left wondering what's going to happen. Cameron's chip had been compromised, turning her back to thinking she's there to terminate John Connor, while John and Sarah are running for their life. Literally.

Initially my thought was that Cameron was going to be turned bad for a few episodes before John repaired her chip. Which would've been an interesting to see how that would've taken us, but in a way I'm glad it wasn't prolonged. Though I'm getting a sense that despite just having a chip that acquires all her programming Cameron is going to undergo certain tests with that programming, especially involving John. That whole "I love you" scene when John was about to take out her chip could be seen either way, a ploy or the truth as her memories from the future are being mishmashed together. She did keep repeating certain phrases so I'm sure that while her chip had been damaged a bit there was some truth to that, and seeing John's reaction it worked.

It's going to be really interesting to see how this plays out, since we've been dropped hints that there might be more between John and Cameron later this season. What's fascinating is how Cameron is different from the other Terminators in that she mimicks and picks up human interaction skills and understand how humans are externally, but perhaps this season might make her become more human in the emotional department. That is what intrigues me and it's going to be interesting to see how it unfolds.

Now to John. Last season he was more or less not wanting to get involved in things, it seemed more Sarah and Cameron doing those action-packed stuff. It looks like this season John's going to be getting more into the action. The scene where he's burning the car, with him standing next to Cameron while the others are on the opposite side, I felt that was symbolic to how John is changing; becoming more of the man he's going to become. Also, the last scene with him in the bathroom cutting his hair. It wasn't just him cutting his hair, the look he was giving the mirror and the unevenness of the cut. Again, symbolic. He's been affected by what happened, he now understands the graveness of their situation, even after all he's seen and witnessed, he's now understanding more about what needs to happen. He's maturing, and I think this is going to be an evolution to his character this season, the same with Cameron and also Sarah, who has to deal with her son becoming the savior of mankind as well as protect him from any harm as well.

The new introduction of Shirley Manson's character, who's name escapes me at the moment, was like whoa. Seriously, I figured she was part of the bigger plot from the first scene but to discover that she's actually a Terminator, and the liquified version as seen in T2, surprised me. And she was disguised as a urinal in the men's bathroom! Shocking reveal is shocking. I'm looking forward to more of her character, her intentions, and her fabulous hairstyle that compelled me in the episode. Srsly, very fierce.

I also liked her description of people walking along the street, she was talking like someone would looking through a microscope of a strange species. Which now we understand why, but still.

Okay, I'll be rambling but yay. The show is back and I'm happy.


However, I do have a dilemma, as it seems that Mondays are the crowded weekday concerning fandoms. Gossip Girl and TSCC are both on at the same timeslot and come September 22nd it'll be followed by Heroes. As happy as I am that the fall season is picking up after the painful hiatus during the strike for some, I'd forgotten about the issue of sharing timeslots and close-togetherness of shows. I don't know, I'll try to work out the schedule but again, I do have a life outside of fandom so I may be behind on several if things becomes too problematic.
 
 
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OhBoothohbooth on September 10th, 2008 12:41 am (UTC)
Aww, sucky shared time slots stink! Sorry The only day I have one of those is Thursday, Grey's and SN :)

I don't watch either of these :P BUT I do remember Buffy *sigh* I miss Buffy, she was kick ass!
Renéerogueslayer452 on September 10th, 2008 12:49 am (UTC)
There are times that I do miss Buffy, the earlier seasons were the best and the third season was golden. Not that the later seasons sucked, because unlike most I enjoyed S7 with the idea of The First and Potential Slayers and all that, but yeah. There's major nostalgia for the earlier seasons, back when everyone looked so young! And nineties fashion. XD
OhBooth: Dean Buffy B&W Smilesohbooth on September 10th, 2008 12:52 am (UTC)
Oh, I liked seven too, I didn't know that people didn't! Wasn't a big fan of six, mostly cause of the weird buffy/spike thing...yuck
Renée: Ruby. Amazing crack.rogueslayer452 on September 10th, 2008 12:59 am (UTC)
I agree. I felt S6 was too depressing and angsty. It just wasn't like the previous seasons, which probably was the point but, y'know, not the standard Buffy I knew and liked. I think S4 was like that as well, not that it didn't have it's moments but the main plot with the initiative was kind of not right for the show, IMO.

And it's weird because a lot of SPN fans DON'T like Buffy, or anything Joss writes. I find that odd.
OhBooth: Dean Buffy Red Carpetohbooth on September 10th, 2008 01:12 am (UTC)
Oh yeah, I agree on the season 4 stuff, I was like o_O wtf...?

And really?! See, I didn't know that about season 7 buffy or that SN fans don't like Joss, I wonder why, its runs parallel as far as I am concerned
Renéerogueslayer452 on September 10th, 2008 01:15 am (UTC)
Well, judging from some comments I've seen in some SPN communities. Many thought that Joss's humor used in the shows was too...fruitful? Bland? IDK. I mean, honestly you either get Jossisms or you don't, which is okay. I don't know if there's a vast majority of SPN fans that think like this, only what I've seen so don't use my word as a statistic.
Jen: gg. b. you know you love me.snowfire on September 10th, 2008 12:43 am (UTC)
However, I do have a dilemma, as it seems that Mondays are the crowded weekday concerning fandoms. Gossip Girl and TSCC are both on at the same timeslot and come September 22nd it'll be followed by Heroes. As happy as I am that the fall season is picking up after the painful hiatus during the strike for some, I'd forgotten about the issue of sharing timeslots and close-togetherness of shows.

This is something I find TRAGIC. I have Gossip Girl, How I Met Your Mother, Chuck, and Sarah Connor Chronicles (once I catch up this weekend, because I've only seen up to episode 4) all at eight on Mondays, and I have no clue how I'm going to fit in all in. Chuck can wait until I have more time, but I don't want to wait on the other shows! And I think those are the only four shows I wanted to watch this year, too, since BSG and Dollhouse don't premiere until next year and I'm waiting to see if Heroes improves from last year before I start watching it again.

Also, yay for Buffy! I can never decide whether season 2 or season 3 was the best (season 3 had Faith, but season 2 had villains I liked more and it was all so tragic), but it was definitely an amazing season nonetheless.

Edited at 2008-09-10 12:45 am (UTC)
Renéerogueslayer452 on September 10th, 2008 12:54 am (UTC)
It just sucks, doesn't it? I love having my shows back but the trouble is finding the time to watch them, and usually I like watching them as they're being aired (and then reviewing them as soon as I can afterwards). But now it seems to be a hassle, with old shows returning and new shows premiering. This happens EVERY YEAR, too.

God, I loved S2 as much as I loved S3. S2 had Spike and Drusilla and the transformation of Angelus and it was all sad in the end (even after all these years the finale STILL makes me tear up, OMG), but yeah S3 had Faith and the Mayor and then Graduation Day was like, whoa. IDK. It's hard, but old school BtVS are just love.
dandies4everdandies4ever on September 10th, 2008 12:52 am (UTC)
Monday is the busiest night on television, a lot of good shows are on that day for some reason.
Renéerogueslayer452 on September 10th, 2008 12:55 am (UTC)
Let's be thankful some of the good shows aren't all on Fridays, which is the Death Timeslot of the weekday. But the competition for all these shows to be on Monday is like, such a hassle.
she who hangs out in libraries: buffy//carevelvet_midnight on September 10th, 2008 12:58 am (UTC)
s3 FTW! =D I'd definitely put it in the top. This ep, the one in my icon? One of my absolute favourites, of all time, I'd say.
Renéerogueslayer452 on September 10th, 2008 01:01 am (UTC)
God, I loved that episode. It really truly shows how much of a father figure Giles is to Buffy, how much he cares for her, and to have that kind of relationship between these two. I think it's my favorite in the whole series. *nods*
she who hangs out in libraries: buffy//carevelvet_midnight on September 10th, 2008 06:43 pm (UTC)
Oh, me too! Utterly fantastic.
amanda: [buffy] heromorbidmuse on September 10th, 2008 01:12 am (UTC)
Aw, I love old school Buffy. Season two is my absolute favorite, followed closely by season three. Just thinking of both make me so happy because it reminds me of Buffy's glory days. :D

I saw a preview for Samuari Girl and it looked pretty interesting. I'd be able to easily follow everything without having read the books, right?
Renéerogueslayer452 on September 10th, 2008 01:20 am (UTC)
I miss the glory days of Buffy, and by rewatching the episodes I understood why. It was just so lovely and perfect, the characters, Sunnydale High School, prissy Wesley, Cordelia being Cordelia but still part of the Scoobies in a way, Faith rocking it all out (and me continuing to girlcrush on her...) So many great stuff.

I think it's safe to say they created the miniseies from the books, but they made it so you don't have to have had read the books in order to understand what's going on. And it is pretty entertaining.
himhilien: Heroes - Brothershimhilien on September 10th, 2008 01:25 am (UTC)
I'm sorry that your cable decided to hate you.

I read about that bit of info about Shirley's character and kinda flailed. Was the effects for her as good as they were for the T-1000 in T2?

I'm glad the shows that I'm most excited for aren't in the same time slots. RL is not being good for me at the moment though so I wouldn't be surprised if I don't get to watch every show every week, except for Heroes and Pushing Daisies.
himhilienhimhilien on September 10th, 2008 01:26 am (UTC)
I forgot to mention Buffy. Season three is love.
Renée: Mohinder Suresh.rogueslayer452 on September 10th, 2008 01:43 am (UTC)
S3 is definitely so much love, and it's the season I actually came into Buffy for the first time when it aired so it holds a certain sentimental value.

My cable can be sucky at times, and I believe it wasn't some sort of coincidental incident either.

I'd say the effects were very good concerning it's on a television budget. I was flailing the entire time when it was revealed, too. I'd seen a FOX poster with the the liquified Terminator though it didn't reveal who it was. Now we know. I can't wait to see more from her character.

Shared timeslots can be a real bitch. But with TSCC and GG I've decided that while I love GG, I can always download it. I have to narrow down all the shows I have to watch as it's being aired or the ones I can wait to download later. This actually makes me very happy that BSG and Dollhouse aren't going to premiere until next year. Too many shows at once = my brain being fried.
Robyncakesbitterbird on September 10th, 2008 02:36 am (UTC)
oh Buffy! I love Buffy it was such an awesome show! Season 3 was an awesome season, Faith is so awesome!

I totally feel your pain with the timeslot thing, although I download things but still some nights its like crazy dl mania, *pets my poor internet*
Renéerogueslayer452 on September 10th, 2008 05:04 am (UTC)
Yep, I had to go back on the Buffy nostalgia. Amazing show. And yeah, I love Faith. She's by far my favorite character, so fierce and badass.

I hear you about the downloading, and my poor computer. Hee!
jellojelost on September 10th, 2008 03:49 am (UTC)
I honestly haven't seen anything you referenced here save for Heroes. Now I feel like I have a hell of a lot to catch up on!

Yay more fandoms! I really feel as if I should finally sit down and actually watch Buffy all the way through. A few scattered episodes is nothing to base an opinion on.
Renéerogueslayer452 on September 10th, 2008 05:12 am (UTC)
A lot of my shows are returning along with new ones so, be prepared to be trampled with more fandoms! XD I don't know if you're a fan of the Terminator films but, TSCC is definitely a worthwhile show to check out. *shameless pimping is shameless*

You really should give Buffy another chance, at least seasons one through three. Which, in my opinion, definitely sets up a lot for what happens later one. Getting to know the characters, their bonds, the mythos of everything including Buffy's destiny, etc. People often compare BtVS to SPN which okay, same kind of genre, but different styles in flavor and storytelling and universes. But I will say keep an open mind while watching, is all.
મનીષા: [sarah connor] be a cat.delgaserasca on September 10th, 2008 07:46 am (UTC)
SCC blew my mind. The opening sequence was amazing, and seeing Mr FBI (can't-remember-his-name-atm) face-off with Cromartie twice was incredibly creepy. Cameron is a pretty terrifying foe, so all her suspicious activities from last year come doubly into focus, I think. And I think you're right - I think there will be changes with her this season because trust has to be rebuilt. But damn, both she and Sarah are so fierce!

Also: seeing John cut his hair surprisingly broke my heart. I wasn't expecting to care so much, but I really, really do (even though to me the whole 'I love you' thing was very much a ploy to get him to trust Cameron whilst she was still untrustworthy).

VERY TENSE.
Renéerogueslayer452 on September 10th, 2008 08:07 am (UTC)
God, that beginning sequence killed me. Everything in slow-motion, Cameron's mechanical movements, the house fire, and the music with Shirley Manson which I read about on Bear McCreary's website. Superb. Also, was this the episode that was supposed to have been aired as the finale? I think I read that somewhere that they had one episode or extended scenes they shot but decided to wait until S2.

Cameron was really creepifying as their enemy, which is even more terrifying to think about. The one person who'd sworn to protect you turning against you. Summer Glau is extraordinary, going between that to the emotional parts back to old Cameron again. Just wow. I was blown away.

even though to me the whole 'I love you' thing was very much a ploy to get him to trust Cameron whilst she was still untrustworthy

I think so too, but since we don't know much of how she's programmed differently from the others we'll never truly understand if what she said was true or not. I think it might be to an extent, since she does care about John and obviously future!John cared and trusted her to send her back in time. So I'm hoping for more on that as we get further into their relationship and rebuilding that trust barrier.

Can I just say that I love this show? Because I really, really do.
♛ part-time maenad: bsg; empireradon_ on September 10th, 2008 01:59 pm (UTC)
I miss BtVS so much. Seasons 2 and 3 were just so awesome and great. I still think the show went kinda downhill when Dawn was introduced, but that's just my (very biased) opinion.

OOOOH TSCC! I totally called Shirley Manson's character being a Termie the moment she did her monologue about the people walking on the streets. It just sounded foreign. Although she kinda spoiled the show for me because the entire time she was on screen, I kept thinking "damn, even Grace Park can emote more." D:

Cameron and Sarah are FIERCE. John's still a little too much of a bratty kid, but he's learning. The scene where he was looking in the mirror with his hair cut was heartbreaking. And OMG DEREK ♥ I love the opening sequence with the song and everything.

Whoa the Monday TV schedule *is* packed. :/
Renéerogueslayer452 on September 10th, 2008 09:25 pm (UTC)
It's okay, I know there's a lot of fans that feel the same way about Dawn. Strangely enough, I liked her. I liked S5 quite a bit actually. But yeah, S2 and S3 were the strongest of the whole series I feel.

Well, I was captivated by Shirley's character, and I think with given time we'll see more expansion with what she can do. I agree with her talking about the people walking on the street, so foreign and definitely the sign of someone who is either being overanalytical or a machine trying to understand humanity, like Cameron is.

What can draw people to TSCC? Fierce women. Fo'reals. I knew that Summer was a talented actress, but what she gave in this episode went above and beyond those expectations. She clearly created the "bad side" of Cameron's programming, and immediately when John fixed her chip you could tell just by a simple tilt of the head and how she spoke. I was amazed, and she does this to me every time. I'm looking forward to seeing John in action and taking control this season. This show is just love. :D

The scary thing? Some of my shows haven't even completely returned yet. D:
Ariel: dr. who-little miss time ladylodessa on September 10th, 2008 02:58 pm (UTC)
I want you to watch TSCC because I am selfish and want to get to talk about it with you the next day. That is my two cents.
Renéerogueslayer452 on September 10th, 2008 09:17 pm (UTC)
Haha! I've decided that because Gossip Girl isn't much with the powerful plotpoints as TSCC or any of my other shows, I can put that off for downloading. I wants my action shows. :)
Ariel: grey's anatomy-attendings-time outlodessa on September 10th, 2008 09:19 pm (UTC)
That makes total sense to me.
rawthorne on September 10th, 2008 03:24 pm (UTC)
I found the episode to be symbolic in many ways - the religion being just the most obvious of all. I think seeing John cut his hair and stand away from his mother might mean he's growing up and taking the lead, as you inferred.
Renéerogueslayer452 on September 10th, 2008 09:15 pm (UTC)
I think it's easy to be symbolic with the religious aspects, like in BSG for example, but it's the subtle things that got to me. I'm looking forward to how they're going to deal with this change and how this'll affect the relationship between him and his mother.
Jbeauty_awake on September 11th, 2008 11:10 pm (UTC)
Oh Rogue...
We don't agree on much but on BTVS we agree completely....

My fave epi is in Season 4

but my fav Season is 3 and 4 and 2 are tied for second... NOTHING was better than Faith.

I have given up on Mondays almost totally but I am feeling everyone elses time crunch... I gave up OTH and GG for DVD sets and I am waiting patiently for the last 10 of BSG and DOLLHOUSE!!!
Renée: Mohinder Suresh.rogueslayer452 on September 11th, 2008 11:20 pm (UTC)
Hey! Long time no see, huh? How've you been?

Faith was definitely the best and my favorite character. I loved how the expanded her role and gave her a wonderful storyline throughout both BtVS and Angel series. It's her rocky road to redemption that makes me love her so much, and even if the shows had their faults here and there especially later on, Faith was still hardcore. Trufax.

Monday nights are going to be tight, and with my schedule in RL it's going to be too much to handle. But I'll make time and deal. BTW, how far along are you in BSG? It sounds like you're done if you're waiting for the final ten episodes of the series like the rest of us....