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15 April 2009 @ 08:28 pm
Shoulder to the wheel bb, shoulder to the wheel.  
++ It appears that FOX is to cancel TSCC, which with the disappointment wasn't too surprising given the ratings. There are ways to have fans fight against it but it seems the decision has been made indefinitely. I mean surely I'm saddened because there are plenty of directions to go and questions left unanswered, though the finale did that have completion to the season that most series don't have when they're canceled. It's open for more possibilities if they choose to, say, make a televised movie or a straight-to-DVD expansion of it. It'll be missed that's for sure, but I'm glad they were able to wrap it up but still leave room for more to be told, as the Terminator mythology will always live on regardless.

There's also some uncertainty regarding Dollhouse and its fate, though Joss still remains hopeful despite it being in "limbo" at the moment. All I can say is, if FOX cancels Dollhouse alongside TSCC I will be majorly pissed. Sacrifice one to save the other, but to sacrifice both? Hell no.

++ I'm becoming very tempted in making a little Blair/Castiel thingie mainly because from the poll competition meme that has been going on. They're both my favorite characters and I love them and they're fierce like whoa, so why not have them duke it out with their fierceness? I can totes see Blair warming up to him and teaching him how to be all schemey without getting into trouble with his superiors. Much. ALTHOUGH SIX/CASTIEL IS STILL MY CRACKY OTP, AS THEY ARE PERFECTLY FIERCE TOGETHER AND ARE MEANT TO BE (BESIDES DEAN/CASTIEL), F'REALS.

++ Seeing it being advertised around lately, I've been thinking about getting a Dreamwidth account. It sounds kinda awesome given what I've read and researched about it. It's like LJ, but a bit more secure and friendlier as I've been told. So, idk. It looks nice, so strongly considering it.

++ PSA: Le sigh, wank and drama concerning fandom is just utterly ridiculous. For future reference, when approaching a debate and you have nothing valid of an argument to back up your opinion in rebuttal to a reasonably explained response, is not what a healthy and civil debate makes. Particularly when a rebuttal is merely saying "fuck your opinion". Look, personal preferences and perceptions are fine, but attacking one thing when claiming fandom is attacking something else for the same reasons isn't making you look better, either. Double standards, it happens on both sides of the equation here, not just one. It's okay to be opinionated and passionate about your opinion but for the sake of creating a drama we can just agree to disagree on it and let it go.

And that's the end of that.
 
 
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forwardish: SCC J/C forwardish on April 16th, 2009 05:31 am (UTC)
i'm still like... o.O waiting until may.
fox hasn't made anything official.
Renée: Terminator: TSCC.rogueslayer452 on April 16th, 2009 05:33 am (UTC)
I know. They're being all "this is definite" due to ratings (which weren't up to par, and I'm still boggled at that rly) but I'm still kinda holding out until the upfront despite it all. I shouldn't get my hopes up though, knowing FOX unless a miracle happens. But still, crossing my fingers anyway.
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Renée: Castiel. Cute and sneaky.rogueslayer452 on April 16th, 2009 05:38 am (UTC)
HEE! I enjoy my epic crack!pairings, yes I do. Especially since I can actually make it work inside my head? Oh yes, Blair/Castiel would be epic and awesome indeed. Especially with sneaky!Castiel and schemey!Blair? They'd be unstoppable in their epic shenanigens! XDDD

Add Chuck Bass, Six and Uriel into the mix and they'd be the FABULOUS FIVE! lol

IKR? It's majorly disappointing and the ratings went down because of those episodes which, wtfrak? Those were both the STRONGEST episodes ever. TSCC finale blew everything out of the water and was amazingly awesome, the same with 1.09 for Dollhouse. It just makes me frustrated that the ratings are what dictates the fate of shows and not the fanbases and reactions from critics and such. FOX should've just stuck with Mondays. Fridays are BADHORRIBLEBAD for any show to succeed. Srsly.
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Renée: Blair/Chuck. Fuck.rogueslayer452 on April 16th, 2009 06:02 am (UTC)
Crack!pairings are srsly the best ways to go. When fandom is all in uproars with shipping wars and whatnot, crack!pairings are what calms the mind from all that insanity.

Now I have an image in my head of when they first meet and Blair saying something along the lines of "What are you supposed to be a Jehovah's Witness? You're not going to try to sell me magazines that will save my soul are you?"

LMAO! She would too, wouldn't she? Oh Blair, ILU and your fierce snarkiness. I am seriously considering this as my second cracky Castiel OTP pairing. Rly.

The ratings system should be changed. Granted they set up the Hulu and the Fox.com sites so they can monitor who is watching it online to indicate more hits of viewings, but that can be iffy as well especially since they calculate all those ratings the day after it aired. It's just so screwy sometimes, but that's how the business works. Unfortunately. I wish we could make it better, particularly since a lot of people are finding alternative ways of viewing their shows online (whether downloading or watching from the site, or DVR or whatever). So, idk.
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Renéerogueslayer452 on April 16th, 2009 07:06 am (UTC)
I hate when fans are in that state of entitlement, like your a bad fan for not liking a certain pairing or character. God forbid you have another preference outside of the conventional!

Castiel is apparently shippable with anyone. AND WHO WOULD TURN HIM DOWN?! SRSLY. ;p

See? This is the kind of screwed up system it is with television and its ratings. I mean there are shows that get lesser ratings but some networks keep them anyway regardless, but sometimes it depends on the network and statistics with their popular rated shows. I know that Heroes slacked quite a bit but they're still planning on getting another season or something like that, because NBC considers it their best and highest show yet. I know that SPN had been kind of just barely reaching its limit on the WB/CW in the earlier seasons, sans this season because this season has been off the hook. So yeah, idk how they're going to work all this out.

It's all complicated and gives me a headache.
Robyncakesbitterbird on April 16th, 2009 05:37 am (UTC)
I dont like either TSCC or Dollhouses chances sadly, not on FOX anyway, any oother nextwork they might have been ok but FOX is harsh

Apparentlty Dean/Castiel is popular in spn big bang this year, I thought youd like that ;p
Renée: Dean/Castiel. Serene.rogueslayer452 on April 16th, 2009 05:43 am (UTC)
It's strange because FOX was totes behind TSCC when it first premiered, but that was during the writer's strike last year and nothing else was on so there were no other competitions. FOX also were behind Dollhouse from the start, promising to air the whole season and see where it goes, but from the confusion of whether it'll be 13 episodes or 12 and the changing of the pilot and all that kind of contradicts that. But again, this business is fickle enough as it is, so idk.

But I agree that they would do much better on other networks since FOX has this "ratings are what matter" mentality. Of course having them both be on Fridays was a huge indicator of that strategy.

Hee, but of course Dean/Castiel would become popular within the Big Bang. Their love is epic, like whoa. ;D ♥
trishelle ♥biter on April 16th, 2009 05:52 am (UTC)
I'll die if they cancel Dollhouse. =[
Renée: DH. Echo. Blank slate.rogueslayer452 on April 16th, 2009 05:56 am (UTC)
Me too bb, me too. :( At least have it have another season so Joss can tell his story. Because it is awesome. Don't be fucktards then you already are FOX, okies? Give it a chance. Hell, move it to MONDAYS with better promotion and ratings will surely rise, no doubt.
trishelle ♥biter on April 16th, 2009 05:59 am (UTC)
Seriously. It's on a Friday. Teenagers go out with their friends to watch movies/party/drink. Of course the ratings are going to be fail.
Renée: Terminator: TSCC.rogueslayer452 on April 16th, 2009 06:05 am (UTC)
Most people didn't know that TSCC returned because it wasn't promoted enough that it moved to Fridays. :/ FOX's promoting strategy fails massively.

It's kinda sad because Fridays were my epic scifi day, now with BSG gone and TSCC probably getting canned indefinitely and Dollhouse on the edge of that threat as well...what will I have to watch? Srsly. Fail FOX, utter fail.
hardparade89hardparade89 on April 16th, 2009 06:06 am (UTC)
*sigh* All this caring about shows I like/love getting cancelled or not is exhausting. This is why I don't get attached to Fox shows! It kinda stings a bit. :/
Renée: Echo. I go to sleep.rogueslayer452 on April 16th, 2009 06:14 am (UTC)
FOX does this to us, unfortunately, this love/hate thing. We hate them, but then they greenlight some amazing shows and then we love watching them, but then shit like this happens and then we hate them again.

It's all confusing and exhausting. :(
♛ part-time maenad: fox network; frak you.radon_ on April 16th, 2009 06:17 am (UTC)
Meh Fox, you have the best shows and then you cancel them. STOP BEING SUCH A TEASE. ):

Blair/Castiel omg. Castiel is like, shippable with practically everyone under the sun, trufax.
Renée: DH. Echo. Blank slate.rogueslayer452 on April 16th, 2009 06:33 am (UTC)
I know! I mean I should be grateful that FOX would have them greenlit in the first place when other networks probably wouldn't, but they never seem to give them enough chance to evolve into something amazing! Just, ugh!

HE TOTES IS! He is just that amazing. HE DAZZLES EVERYONE HE COMES IN CONTACT WITH! OMG!
rawthorne on April 16th, 2009 09:57 am (UTC)
I wouldn't be surprised if TSCC is canceled at this point. Rumors have been going around for a while. Dollhouse, however, seems to bring in some viewers and could benefit from being the Friday night slot holder, with BSG and TSCC gone. Less competition means higher ratings, surely.
Renée: Castiel. Guardian angel.rogueslayer452 on April 16th, 2009 10:01 am (UTC)
I would still love Dollhouse to be placed on Monday nights. Fridays are generally iffy anyway and they'd probably even get boosted in ratings if they placed it on another day and timeslot. But yeah, no TSCC and BSG competition would be slim. I'd just like more promotion, plz.
Pipi Calzascortas: tv | spn | raised from perditionwaddi_wassi on April 16th, 2009 11:52 am (UTC)
FOX: Canceling your favorite shows since 2002
I really don't mind anymore. I'll enjoy the next episodes and if we get a second season (I'm talking about Dollhouse, yes xD), that would be amazing. If we don't, I really never thought we could. Firefly's cancellation still hurts (and yes, I'm aware that this happened 7 years ago), so I don't trust them at all. Fox, where good television goes to die (I used to have an icon which said that ¬¬*).

Six/Castiel. I've seen you metioning it a couple of times and it still amazes me 'cause I'd never imagine that couple AND THEY STILL FIT IN MY HEAD. THEY TOTALLY DO AND NOW I WANT TO READ THAT! Lol.

Dreamwidth? Uh, are you thinking about leaving Livejournal or you would keep this? Anyway, it looks beautiful! *is going to look for info too*
Renée: Agathons. Happily ever after.rogueslayer452 on April 16th, 2009 03:29 pm (UTC)
Re: FOX: Canceling your favorite shows since 2002
The thing is I know that FOX has new exeucs working at the main office since then, and actually approached Eliza to come up with a new show in which she approached Joss; so really, if it weren't for FOX we wouldn't have Dollhouse to begin with. It's actually amazing that they've agreed to air the entire season, even with some sketchiness along the way. I do want to believe that FOX has been behind the show all the way, even though the network as a whole has its issues with canceling shows that don't get good ratings.

I'm wary but staying optimistic.

LOL I TURN PPL THE THE AMAZINGNESS OF CRACK PAIRINGS AND IT IS AWESOME! Seriously, Six/Castiel is totes my OTP crack pairing. I mean, not only are the angels completely like Cylons in more ways than one, but wouldn't that just be amazingly hot?! Srsly. :DD

Dude, I'm too attached to LJ. If I do get a Dreamwidth it'll be for other purposes, since I've stuck with LJ for at least seven years now. There's no way I'm leaving anytime soon. ;)
The Large Purple Weedtracy on April 16th, 2009 02:43 pm (UTC)
who is Blair? I must catch up on your fandoms this summer lest you leave me behind! D:
Renéerogueslayer452 on April 16th, 2009 03:49 pm (UTC)
Blair Waldorf bb! From Gossip Girl. She's one fierce bitch and I love her to death, and she has some similarities with Dean with her insecurities despite having a tough exterior and using her manipulative skills -- even though she hardly gets what she strives for, always overshadowed. Also, Leighton Meester is gorgeous.

Of course my OTP is Six/Castiel, Blair/Castiel comes in close to second the more I think about it. ;D
icecoldrain: Heroes - Dudeicecoldrain on April 16th, 2009 03:06 pm (UTC)
I haven't watched TSCC since the beginning of this season, but it always sucks when a show gets canceled.
Renée: Castiel. Conflicted.rogueslayer452 on April 16th, 2009 04:05 pm (UTC)
It truly does. Even with waiting for the official upfronts it seems kind of inevitable due to the ratings. Major suckage, but what'dya gonna do?
Becky: MISC: Leighton Meesterbeckytheelf on April 16th, 2009 03:21 pm (UTC)
OH MY EFFING GOD. BLAIR/CASTIEL...I LOVE IT.
I can't believe I had to choose between those two. ARGH. And fandom is always always wanking...I don't think we'd be fandom if we didn't have it.
I'm thinking about making the switch to DW...I didn't want to go because I've been on LJ since IDK, FOREVER? Maybe I'll just have two accounts. Heh.
Renée: Six. Satisfied.rogueslayer452 on April 16th, 2009 04:04 pm (UTC)
That's why the pairing kinda works, make love not war! XD Yeah, I liked the whole voting in the beginning but then it started getting ridiculous with the repeated offenses of people going "OMG VOTE THIS PERSON OR I'LL DIE!" or some shit like that. That's where the fun kind of dissolves. It would've been awesome had Misha won, though one fanatical fandom against another fanatical fandom, there's going to be some batshittery happening.

So Blair/Castiel makes the world go 'round. ;D

Hehe, yeah, fandom always being wanky is kind of part of the package unfortunately. But I tend to stay away from it and watch from the sidelines, loling or headdesking depending. But when it's attacks on opinions? Oh hell no. I'm not having any of that.

That's what I'm thinking, having two accounts. IDK. I do like the setup with the invite codes though, reminds me of the 'old days of LJ.
♥blackwidow on April 16th, 2009 10:52 pm (UTC)
I've excepted the fact that T:SCC wasn't going to come back months ago when the rumours started that the set was torn down, but I don't think I will ever forgive FOX for cancelling Dollhouse if they do. They never gave the show a chance. I've already told myself that if Dollhouse ends up getting axed I will never watch FOX ever again. They always ruin my fandom life :[
Renée: Echo. I go to sleep.rogueslayer452 on April 16th, 2009 11:52 pm (UTC)
There's been mixed things about whether we should be worried or keeping with the optimism regarding Dollhouse. I've been hopeful and according to Joss and Eliza they are too even if there's nothing official yet so, we'll just be waiting along with them until the upfronts apparently.

We always make that promise, don't we? Vow to never watch FOX again...until something else shiny comes along that'll most likely get canceled the same way.
jello: castieljelost on April 16th, 2009 11:02 pm (UTC)
I'm sad to see TSCC go, too -- but I'm glad for that last episode. It totally works for the end. The mythos will never end for the endless timelines, so it fits.

If Dollhouse disappears, too, I'll have lost every last shred of hope for FOX.

Six/Castiel is still wonderfully hot.♥

This is the second time I've heard of Dreamwidth on the flist. Where is this idea of moving coming from? Suddenly it looks like a bunch of people are switching, and I'd only heard of it today.
Renée: SPN. Castiel.rogueslayer452 on April 16th, 2009 11:57 pm (UTC)
It definitely fits and I'm happy they went out with that finale instead of something not satisfactory enough. There's still some noise that nothing's definite yet, but judging from the statistics I'd say it's done for.

Me too. Though there seems to be optimism abound so, I'm still keeping my spirits high. *crosses fingers*

Six/Castiel = for badass motherfucking angels to fuck your shit up, and look hot doing it. ;)

Not really moving to another site, but just another fall back site to where it's more user-friendly as I've been told from others. I'm not switching but I could have a separate account elsewhere even if I still remain on LJ. It seems to have the qualifications that LJ used to have back in the old days -- invite codes and whatnot, which sounds pretty awesome and secure with their services. So, idk. If I do get one I'm totes not abandoning LJ though. I've been here for too long to just disappear like that. 'Cause I love y'all so much. :D
Jennifer: twilight_ashleygreene3jenniferkaos on April 17th, 2009 01:01 am (UTC)
I'm sort of a Castiel/Haley James shipper. :DD I saw a fan video featuring those two and it was awesome!

I don't watch either of those shows. I thought TSCC was a popular show? I find it strange they are canceling it. I also heard about them wanting to cancel Dollhouse. I tried watching it and I was rather disappointed in it just because it wasn't Joss's best work.

There's no way I'm getting another journal. Haha! I have a hard enough time updating this one. That's all I need is another journal to update. :DD
Renée: DH. Echo. Blank slate.rogueslayer452 on April 17th, 2009 02:58 am (UTC)
Hehe, Castiel is just shippable with everyone, amirite? ;D

TSCC a popular show? Hardly (and I wish it had been, let me tell you!), if it had been it would've gotten better ratings that's for sure. It did very well during its first season because it was during the writer's strike when it premiered mid-season, but not so much now.

Aww, which episode did you watch that you felt disappointed in? Because the episodes and the story picks up and it's MUCH better for those that felt the same way regarding Dollhouse. I'd say you should try again if you'd like because it does get much more awesome later on, and it's going to be even more amazing and epic. Then again, I loved it from the start so I'm biased and it's not one of those shows that everyone'll love so, heh. But yes, Dollhouse is love. Trufax.

Edited at 2009-04-17 02:59 am (UTC)
Jennifer: oth_peytonsawyerjenniferkaos on April 29th, 2009 12:05 am (UTC)
I watched the episode where Eliza was a dancer for some singer. I think it was a singer. It was like the second episode that aired. Do you remember it? Any word on whether the show has been picked up or not?
Renée: Sierra. Taking charge.rogueslayer452 on April 29th, 2009 03:49 am (UTC)
That was the third episode "Stage Fright", and it wasn't necessarily the strongest but I still liked it. You should definitely see the second episode "The Target" or anything afterwards, because the show truly does pick up the pace.

Nothing yet, waiting for the official upfronts to see. Even though FOX's numbers aren't high I'm staying optimistic. *crosses fingers*