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14 August 2009 @ 02:02 pm
Sometimes I really hate people.  
My ranting post, let me shows you its.

++ It's people like this bigoted asshole right here that are the problem with maintaining sanity or, at least, trying to maintain being the levelhead in the situation where it's like talking to a brick wall. Especially since he's denouncing any kind of rational arguments by people who disagree on his stance, it's obvious he's on his self-righteous high horse and not getting off any time soon. It's bad enough his strong homophobic comments and views are jarring as they are, some of the comments made that support his words are even worse. I just, don't even know how to properly respond to this. My rage, it continues to seethe and yet somehow I still don't want to waste my time with this douchenozzle. People who refuse to look at both sides of an argument, even if they are the shit-stirrer to begin with, are not worth anyone's time, since they will not see reason due to the huge stick up their bigoted ass.

And don't even get me started about the recent reports of racefail that's been happening. Just, wow.

++ I'm not much for politics myself, however I feel the need to comment on something that's been driving me up the wall, particularly with individuals who aren't pleased with the way Obama is handling his presidency and cry out the phrase with such negativity: "This is not the America I grew up in!"

First of all, the America most of these people grew up in was in segregation. It had limited rights for POC and women, it had sexism and discrimination, and lacked any kind of diversity and unity as a people altogether, and plenty of other things that were not of the good. Just because we have a black president doesn't mean everything is going down the shithole. I understand not everyone is going to agree with what he does and that's to be expected, but somehow people think that change = bad, and that's not it at all. Change can be good, change can be for the better, and whether you like it or not President Barack Obama is making those changes for us all as a united nation. Understandably this issue concerning health care is something many are worrying about, and rightfully so. But we can't denounce him for that alone, he's only been in office for less than a year. We can't magically change everything in that short period of time. America has too many screwed up things that need to be fixed, some will take more time than others and then some, and he's got a few more years in office to do just that.

No, this isn't the America you grew up in. It'll be a better America. We don't know what will happen in the upcoming years, but I do have faith that we're moving forwards in this nation instead of backwards.
 
 
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yeah, i live on the hellmouth.vichan on August 14th, 2009 10:27 pm (UTC)
So the bigoted asshole and the culprit of the current racefail?

They're married.

No, I'm not kidding.
Renéerogueslayer452 on August 14th, 2009 10:31 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I knew that once learning about these two wanks yesterday. A match-made in epic fail, amirite? Not to mention dangerously disturbing.
Nicole Anell: caprica-sixnicole_anell on August 14th, 2009 11:01 pm (UTC)
Mazel tov, they deserve each other!
Ambsmissambs on August 15th, 2009 02:08 am (UTC)
Holy crap. That is a twist I did not expect.
noybusiness on August 14th, 2009 10:54 pm (UTC)
No, this isn't the America you grew up in. It'll be a better America.

Well said.

I am too scared of crazy people to use the links.
Renéerogueslayer452 on August 14th, 2009 11:17 pm (UTC)
I think you'll be saving your sanity if you do, so be grateful you're not into all of that craziness. It boggles the mind. :S
Nicole Anell: caprica-sixnicole_anell on August 14th, 2009 11:01 pm (UTC)
1. I'm still annoyed that guy deleted his comments (and now apparently the whole post)! 'Cause not only was there was some fabulous outrage and snark going on, but also: I told him to stop talking about homosexuality AND Battlestar Galactica, which got about 10 people in a row to respond "So say we all!" to me, and that was fun. (FYI, the first page of pro-homophobe comments contained a whole thread about how BSG was a pro-life show and Felix Gaeta was TOTALLY NEVER GAY outside of the webisodes.)

But... yeah, where was I? My "favorite" part was when he decried everyone who disagreed with him as un-intellectual trolls who cannot see logic. (Unlike his "logic" of homosexuality --> screwing animals.) Yes sir, you've totally won this argument by (mis)using fancy words and not getting "emotional" at any point during your hyperbolic rant and the subsequent deleting of comments. O_o

2. Yes! Whenever people start saying "the America I grew up in" on the verge of panicky tears, I think they have to be either really, really naive (see: Pleasantville, awesome movie that it is) or they are seriously mourning for a time before the civil rights movement and women's liberation.
Renée: Six. It's good to be a Cylon.rogueslayer452 on August 14th, 2009 11:16 pm (UTC)
the first page of pro-homophobe comments contained a whole thread about how BSG was a pro-life show and Felix Gaeta was TOTALLY NEVER GAY outside of the webisodes.

I totally read that thread, too! There was another one regarding Firefly and at how Joss Whedon was advocating prostitution or something like that, I can't remember exactly what it was directed towards but it definitely wasn't in the positive light.

His "logic" was not Earth logic, by any means. I found his comments very confusing because he tried to sound all intellectual and thinking that if he ignored the better part of rational arguments that he won whereas everyone else were just sniping at him for being right. :/ Uh huh, right. Deleting comments and now a deleted post, totally proves how right you are! I can only imagine the butthurt that'll resume from this.

Omgosh, Pleasantville! Loved that movie.
avaserenityavaserenity on August 15th, 2009 12:21 am (UTC)
I'm not much for politics myself, however I feel the need to comment on something that's been driving me up the wall, particularly with individuals who aren't pleased with the way Obama is handling his presidency and cry out the phrase with such negativity: "This is not the America I grew up in!"

I hate that statement as well. More so because most people don't think about what it actually means before it comes bumbling out of their mouths. This is not the America that you gre wup in huh? You mean the America that was so hated by the rest of the world. The America that has to guard itself from terrorist attacks because we are so hated? Would that be the America they are referring to?

I love how when I ask that suddenly nobody is feeling really talkative.

Renéerogueslayer452 on August 15th, 2009 01:06 am (UTC)
I love how when I ask that suddenly nobody is feeling really talkative.

And the people that do have something to say only go around in circles, not just the insecurities about having Barack as president but the feeling that Americans don't have the same pride that they used to have, and I feel like that's bullshit. The day when Obama was officially sworn into office there were swamps of people surrounding the white house, joining together and taking pride and joy that finally, finally something will be done to change history of America forever. While times have been tough, I think we've grown stronger as a nation.

There will be obstacles, there will be decisions made that not everyone is going to accept or agree with, but in the scheme of things I think we've come a very long way. Change is good, and sometimes people don't like that change, but it has to happen one way or the other so we can move forward.
Ambsmissambs on August 15th, 2009 02:07 am (UTC)
Hi. >.> I love you and really really hope you don't take offense to this. I know we disagree, and that's fine with me! I just took issue with this...

Just because we have a black president doesn't mean everything is going down the shithole.

No, but I do think our country is going to go down the shithole because we have Obama, not because we have a black president. I disagree with him quite thoroughly on most things.

Please, please don't assume that all people who dislike Obama are old and grew up in a land of sexism and racism. Some people just don't agree with his politics, and that has NOTHING to do with race.
Renée: DH. Echo. Blank slate.rogueslayer452 on August 15th, 2009 02:13 am (UTC)
I would never take offense with you, bb. I know you have different viewpoints regarding this and I understand and respect that. ;)

I also understand not everyone agrees with Obama. I'm not entirely placing it as a racial thing because I know it's not all there is when people go against him, but it does seem like based on a lot of extremists that do have a lot of negative things to say are implying that as a contributing factor.
Ambsmissambs on August 15th, 2009 02:18 am (UTC)
Yeah, I totally get that. And honestly? They (the ones that do make it about race) annoy no one more than myself. It's like, "Get the fuck off my side, I do NOT want to be associated with you. :("

<3
rawthorne on August 15th, 2009 07:43 pm (UTC)
I hope you got to see the segment covering that racefail on Jon Stewart.
kitchensexslavekitchensexslave on August 16th, 2009 01:21 am (UTC)
Urgh. Some parts of the internet are so depressing :(
Take your prejudices and shove it! (not you, obviously... I am just shouting in a general way)