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21 April 2010 @ 09:36 pm
Don't piss off the nerd angels.  
I love this icon so much. ♥ BAMF!CASTIEL DEMANDS YOUR RESPECT, BITCHES.

Rewatched "Point of No Return" for like the umpteenth, because how can I not? Seriously, that episode made me shit and puke sparkles and rainbows and the more I watch it the more I love it. Anyway, going through the episode again I noticed a few things, whether they are of importance or not doesn't really matter, I feel like talking about them. Because I still need to express my love (and there's gushing over Misha/Castiel, obviously).


01. Bitchy!Castiel is my favorite. I love him just being so bitchy and kind of throwing little passive-aggressive tantrums in the beginning until he full-on unleashed all his emotions out onto Dean in the alleyway. Like, in the beginning he's all leaning against the wall, arms folded glaring at Dean (always making with the eyesexing even by glaring, I love that), he just pulled Adam from his grave like, what tracy hilariously said in her picspam review, "pulling out a carrot" which is precisely who I view the scene now every single time and I CRACK UP I AM NOT KIDDING. I CANNOT GET THAT IMAGE OUT OF MY HEAD OF CASTIEL CASUALLY PULLING BODIES FROM THEIR GRAVES LIKE HARVESTING CARROTS OR SOMETHING. XD Which he then just tosses Adam like a ragdoll onto the bed in Bobby's house, lol. And then when they're talking to Adam about what the angels have planned, Castiel goes all bitchy to Dean when he says, "maybe they wrongly assumed Dean would be brave enough to withstand them". Emphasis on the word "wrongly" there. His sarcasm drips with bitchiness, and I like it. Then there's, of course, the bitchy telekinetic panic room door slam, which I personally love.

I just, I love bitchy!Castiel. We're not used to seeing this side of him frequently, but they've been fleshing out this bitchy and sarcastic side of him bit by bit, and it's also the subtly of how Misha's performance showing how Castiel is further becoming familiarized with human mannerisms, whether it's a change in posture or emphasizing something in a sentence. Because when you think back to S4 that's just something Castiel wouldn't have done, or if he was bitchy it was only for a moment before he pulled himself back into being the obedient soldier. So I really love how they've conducted it, and mostly none of it would have been possible without Misha, really. Writing can only get you so far, it's the actor that has to provide the performance to make the written words come to life on the screen.

02. Castiel presented and used more of his powers in this episode than what we've seen of him previously (or perhaps ever?), which I found very interesting. One point of this in particular is when he's transporting himself from one place to another, whether appearing or disappearing he makes his presence known with an audible whoooosh and you visibly see papers flying about. This isn't something that has happened on a regular basis. He's just suddenly there or just goes without much warning, most times with a soft flapping of wings to really announce his coming or going. Which is why I suspect the main reason for the ~dramatic wind~ was part of Castiel's bitchiness. Kinda like the panic room door slam, this was his way of being kind of tantruming about. HIS BITCHINESS AND RAGE TRANSCENDED THROUGH HIS TRAVELING MECHANISM AND I KINDA LOVE THAT. IT TICKLES ME FOR SOME REASON. ;D

03. I'm finding there's been some debate on whether Zachariah mentioned "erotically" or "neurotically" when describing the brothers being codependent on each other. I've rewatched the scene, trying to decipher what he really said, and honestly I can't tell. I think either works though, depending on your fannish stance on being a Wincester or just a casual fan. For me? I don't necessarily care. The show likes adding little slash-filled lines for shits and giggles and the fanservice. It's however you interpret the context of the scene, really.

04. I love how despite his tantrums and bitching around that when Sam returns from his talk with Dean, Castiel has a soft expression on his face. I kind of love that little moment because it's like he's both irritated that Dean would ever consider surrendering to the angels, and yet so very concerned for him at the same time. Even in the alleyway it was the same thing, after beating him up and letting go of his pent up emotions and frustrations upon Dean he just couldn't do any more because he truly does care about Dean. Love hurts people, it was totally the "this hurts me more than it hurts you" thing that was happening between them. I just cannot stop watching the alleyway scene because of that. Castiel doesn't want to hurt Dean but dammit, if Dean is just this stubborn and push him Castiel is gonna push right back, just harder. And more demanding. Because he's still a BAMF, after all.

05. Oh, another thing about the alleyway scene. It's that moment when you realize just how many people were wandering on the sidewalk just a few feet away while all of that was going on that you're kinda like, ummmm, why aren't people noticing this?? If this was real life and there was a huge brawl happening, esp in an alleyway like that, people would be gathering around or at least stopping to watch it happen, or the police would arrive or something. I know, I know, this is fictional and it was all for the storytelling and it's the filming angles and all of that, but sometimes I just have to pause and wonder about those kinds of things, esp after multiple viewings of said scene. It's like UM PPL, SOME GUY IS GETTING HIS ASS WHOOPED BY A VERY PISSED OFF NERD ANGEL AND Y'ALL AREN'T USING YOUR CAMERA PHONES?! lol can you imagine if that actually happened? And Sam would find it the next day and be all, "um Dean, how come there's video of you and Castiel on YouTube?" And Dean would be all "O_o....doing what?" all embarrassed and shit. LOL!

06. I still kind of laugh at the random palm trees in the background towards the end. Like the show is saying, "in case you didn't believe Castiel when he said they're in California, LOOK! SOME PALM TREES!" lol


As a random observation, the more I watch this show, particularly episodes from S4 and S5, the more I realize it probably wouldn't be the same without Castiel being involved somehow. Which is why I hope and PRAY TO GOD AND ALL THE LORDS OF KOBOL that they make Misha Collins a regular for next season as well, despite my still skeptical feelings about it. He's become such an essential part of the show and the emotional attachment I have for the character has reached to a point where it is just absolutely ridculous. I don't think I would stop watching Supernatural as a whole because I do want to see how the Winchester saga ends, but my level of fannishness wouldn't be the same. It's so strange that I've becoming so emotionally attached to such a character like that in such a short period of time and that he would be a determination of how I feel about the show in general, but I don't think I'm not alone in thinking this, right?

To end this post, I think I'll leave you guys this: Misha Collins singing in Russian!!!! During I think the meet & greet tables thing during the JIB convention where the girls were singing a Russian song Misha remembered during childhood (1:20m) and he started singing and kind of dancing along to (1:50m).

YOU GUYS THIS MAN IS SUPER ADORABLE I CAN'T EVEN. <3333
 
 
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Kevin Jonesmulder200 on April 22nd, 2010 05:00 am (UTC)
3. That is very good point. I like the fact that his mood was reflected in his flying away.

4. Very much so yes. When Cas first walked in, he was all concerned and worried about Dean and then BAM! Dean blows him away. That is why I think he lost his shit in the alleyway. It was just the last straw to an already shitty situation.

And I totally feel you about Castiel. Honestly, the only reason I am watching is because I like his character and I am curious about his journey. If he leaves, I won't be watching.

LOL! Misha is such a ham!
Kevin Jonesmulder200 on April 22nd, 2010 05:44 am (UTC)
5. OMG! That would be such an awesome fic idea. LOL!
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Tracy: Dean/Cas And Foreveralexwhitman25 on April 22nd, 2010 05:26 am (UTC)
If there is no Misha next season, this show will be a DVR show that I catch up with on slow weekends. I mean I barely survived S3. If they hadn't added Cas and the angels in S4, I would have been outta there. I need some freshness and other dynamics than Dean and Sam.

Also, I've been thinking about the end of S5 and leading into S6. Now very little is known about S6 except that the code word seems to be RESET, it's supposed to be more focused on the brotherly stuff, it's supposed to be more S1 tonewise, and that the new showrunner isn't too crazy about the angel storyline. Oh and the apocalypse is over. This has me thinking about what S6 means for Cas. To keep him around, I would think he would have to be semi-fallen at the least. Having an amped up angel around for case of the weeks and menial demons doesn't quite work. He could too easily dispatch them. I would be down with semi-fallen, fallen, or human Cas. I could see S5 ending with Cas going out in a blaze of glory, sacrificing himself yet again. I could handle that as his ending, I'd flail and cry but I could swallow it down. I could see it ending with God recalling him back to the heavenly fold (although I like that less since I think Cas has truly embraced free will and outgrown heaven in a lot of ways). Or I could see my nightmare ending - apocalypse averted, the angels erase Cas and all angel related things from Dean's mind and BOOM S6 reset. It's been mentioned enough times that angels have messed with people's memories. It would kill me if they went that route.
Renée: Dean/Castiel. Between us.rogueslayer452 on April 22nd, 2010 06:41 am (UTC)
If they hadn't added Cas and the angels in S4, I would have been outta there. I need some freshness and other dynamics than Dean and Sam.

My thoughts exactly. You and I both share the same thoughts about S6 so I won't revisit that, knowing we can go on and on paragraphs-length about how we feel about it, but I completely agree. If they had continued the way they did in S3 I would have just stopped watching completely. It got too repetitive with their issues being repeated over and over again. Adding Castiel, the angels and the apocalypse storyline into the show's mythology was not only refreshing but it completely boosted the show back up again from such lackluster ratings, and losing that aspect just to push that reset button would be kind of ridiculous and kinda stupid, honestly.

In my mind I have certain theories on how Castiel's journey could go at the end of this season: his faith is restored and he becomes promoted in Heaven and is in charge of reinstating order there from all that was corrupted, and returns next season as the Winchester's guardian for whatever big bad they're dealing with (because having an entire season with just them hunting? Borrinnngg!) or, he stays on Earth with them but still remains an angel. Because while I like the possibility of him becoming fallen, especially for Dean (always for Dean) to explore his development more, I don't trust the show of handling that aspect well. I like the idea of him experiencing and understanding humanity while remaining an angel because, in my view, it can be very interesting because I don't think many angels have done that at least in the way Castiel has been doing. Otherwise, him falling and becoming human would kind of be kinda cliche, imo. I want something different, something of a reward for his faith in fighting the good fight, because after everything he deserves it. I just hope whatever happens they should treat his character journey with respect, because my biggest fear is that next season, if he returns, they'll fuck it up. I don't want that to happen to my favorite beloved character.
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Renée: Castiel + Cell phone = OTP.rogueslayer452 on April 22nd, 2010 06:42 am (UTC)
I WANT HIM TO BE! I CAN'T SURVIVE WITHOUT HIM! But I'm also worried with how his character be dealt with next season if they do announce him returning. It's complicated. BUT EITHER WAY I JUST WANT MISHA TO BE IN MY LIFEEEEE. <3

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cheerful_earl: Ginger Catcheerful_earl on April 22nd, 2010 08:00 am (UTC)
I love Bitchy!Castiel also. I *love* the Angry Cas Papers (tm Tracy)! Misha can bring the anger- Cas radiates it even when he's not speaking. But I also love the softness. As angry as Cas was, he still cares about Dean. He's just fed up.

OMG, I think it's SO hilarious that people keep walking by the alley and no one peeks in! It was one of the first things I noticed about that scene when I watched it as a preview clip, and it made me laaaaaugh.

I'm really torn about Cas next season. On one hand, I cannot survive without my weekly dose of Misha. And Castiel... I love him so much. I've never become so attached to a character in so short a time. He's so fascinating for so many reasons and I don't want his story to end. But on the other hand... I don't see how he'd fit into the storyline, whatever it may be. And these writers are really not very good at balancing out having three main characters (Sera Gamble, actually, is one of the worst at it, I think- Carver and Edlund seem to do okay, as does Siege). Some episodes it works, others it does not, and I can't see them continuing to try if they've moved back to a highly episodic story structure- Cas fits best in the mytharc episodes.

And the thing is, it never once occurred to me that Castiel would live until I entered SPN fandom. I was absolutely 100% sure he would die at the end of S5. But I don't *want* him to. I want him there. Make it work, people!

You know what I want? A Cas spin-off. I love Cas and the Winchesters together (and hey, Dean/Cas OTP), but I would so watch the Castiel, semi-fallen angel traveling around to discover humanity and fight whatever show.

Okay, seriously. HOW IS MISHA REAL!? Every single time I think I cannot love him more than I do, something comes up and makes me love him a little bit more. He's so hilarious. And I love tipsy!Misha. His little dance! LOLOL. <333333333
Renée: Castiel. Wings.rogueslayer452 on April 22nd, 2010 07:58 pm (UTC)
I love Bitchy!Castiel also. I *love* the Angry Cas Papers (tm Tracy)! Misha can bring the anger- Cas radiates it even when he's not speaking.

It's the angry!eye!sex. ;D But yes, I really love how they don't really need to have Castiel say anything to understand what he's feeling in a particular scene or moment. It's all in his body language the reflects his mood. Like in the alleyway, he looks so pissed off, but then he uncurls his hand and his expression softens just so slightly. It's amazing. MISHA is amazing with his performances, period.

OMG, I think it's SO hilarious that people keep walking by the alley and no one peeks in!

It's just such a random observation but the more you view it, the more hilarious it seems that NOBODY PAYS ATTENTION. XD

Some episodes it works, others it does not, and I can't see them continuing to try if they've moved back to a highly episodic story structure- Cas fits best in the mytharc episodes.

I think that's the main issue I have, because back when the show first premiered we weren't really exposed to the bigger arcs, that was half the mystery alongside the regular hunting gigs they did. But the further and further we got into the heavier arcs the more we drifted from that and started becoming engaged in those instead of the episodic ones. Which is why now almost all the episodes that have nothing to do with the mytharcs tend to be the weakest and least favorite episodes for most people. Because the show has progressed to something other than random MOTW episodes, and when you have that going for you that's a sign that says you need to progress further into that mythology rather than set everything back. Which is why I agree, as much as I would love Castiel to return because I love my little nerdy angel like whoa, I don't think he would fit well in that kind of format and I wouldn't like it if they just kept him around just for popularity sake or as a comedic stand-in (and I certainly don't want them fucking up his character storyline, like the fail that Sera Gamble often does with her writing....) I want them to really think about his role, if he returns either still an angel or whatever to help them with something. But at least pay some respect to his character journey.

I AM SO CONFLICTED! I WANT MY CASTIEL AND MISHA ON MY SCREEN BUT I DON'T WANT THEM FUCKING SHIT UP! AND THIS SHOW IS AWESOME BUT IT HAS ITS FLAWS AND I DON'T WANT A REPEAT OF THE FAIL THAT WAS S3! D:

You know what I want? A Cas spin-off. I love Cas and the Winchesters together (and hey, Dean/Cas OTP), but I would so watch the Castiel, semi-fallen angel traveling around to discover humanity and fight whatever show.

YES. THIS. Or just Castiel dealing with his angel family and understanding more about the dysfunctional side of Heaven, because I find that more fascinating than the Winchester brothers and their issues. As much as I love Sam and Dean, their story is almost pretty much done with. I want more about the angels, the rankings, the changes in Heaven and I want there to be a spin-off with Castiel just trying to understand where he belongs, his fight alongside the Winchesters and just trying to make things right, etc. Just something to do with Castiel and his family and his journey. Or, better yet, fill in those blanks during his mission to find God that was sourly taken out between 5.02 and 5.16.

Also, I'm biased. I find the angel mythology far more compelling than anything else in the show at the moment. ;)

Okay, seriously. HOW IS MISHA REAL!? Every single time I think I cannot love him more than I do, something comes up and makes me love him a little bit more.

IKR???? I am constantly amazed with everything this man does. It's like, there's nothing I don't love about him. He's just amazingly awesomely so ridiculously perfect. ♥ ♥ ♥ MY HEART, IT BEATS FOR MISHA AND HIS DORKINESS. ;DDDD
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Long responses = fun! :D - cheerful_earl on April 25th, 2010 06:20 am (UTC) (Expand)
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Jenni: spn › castiel » the raptureonlyechoes on April 22nd, 2010 08:02 am (UTC)
OH MY GODS THAT VIDEO OF MISHA AND HIS RUSSIAN FANS, OMG. ♥ ♥ FAVORITE. He's adorable.
Renée: MISHA COLLINS BITCHES!rogueslayer452 on April 22nd, 2010 05:53 pm (UTC)
SRSLY! WITH THAT LITTLE DANCE AND HIM SINGING/SPEAKING RUSSIAN, AND HIS FACE! HIS ADORABLE PRECIOUS FACE! *SIGH* HOW IS HE EVEN REAL? I DON'T EVEN. SO PERFECT. SO ADORABLE. JUST EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS MAN = LOVE. ♥
bold_seer: = castielbold_seer on April 22nd, 2010 04:13 pm (UTC)
HIS BITCHINESS AND RAGE TRANSCENDED THROUGH HIS TRAVELING MECHANISM AND I KINDA LOVE THAT.

<3

I realize it probably wouldn't be the same without Castiel being involved somehow. Which is why I hope and PRAY TO GOD AND ALL THE LORDS OF KOBOL that they make Misha Collins a regular for next season as well, despite my still skeptical feelings about it.

Skeptical feelings? DON'T DO THAT, YOU'RE MAKING ME NERVOUS. :/ I can't stand the thought of not having him there next season - the whole season.
Renée: Castiel. Adorkable.rogueslayer452 on April 22nd, 2010 05:50 pm (UTC)
I will forever and ever love bitchy!Castiel. <3333 They should have that side appear more often, because it's delicious.

I CAN'T HELP IT BB! I AM TORN WITH MIXED FEELINGS! D: But yeah, I can't imagine SPN without Castiel. He's just a huge part of my life that if he were to leave, well, I don't know what I would do. If the show is smart they'll keep him on, and if they're smarter (and Kripke understands our worries and doesn't want the fuck things up in its possibly last - finally - last season) they'll respect his character storyline and journey.
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The Large Purple Weed: Castiel BAMF walktracy on April 22nd, 2010 05:05 pm (UTC)
ran_cl made this, which you may enjoy. XD


Folks with captions said it was "erotically" so I am inclined to believe them!

It's that moment when you realize just how many people were wandering on the sidewalk just a few feet away while all of that was going on that you're kinda like, ummmm, why aren't people noticing this??

LOLOL I NOTICED THIS TOO. WHAT. But I wouldn't want Sam to see that video on YouTube, I'm sure it would make him D: D: D: a lot to actually watch Dean getting beaten up.
Renée: Castiel. I'm almost out of minutes!rogueslayer452 on April 22nd, 2010 05:43 pm (UTC)
LOL THAT PICTURE OMG. CASTIEL, ANGEL OF THE LORD, HARVESTER OF CARROTS! XD

Folks with captions said it was "erotically" so I am inclined to believe them!

Interesting. Well, if that's the case then I'm inclined to believe them as well. ;D

Yeah, you're right. Watching Dean getting whumped like that certainly would be kind of horrific for Sam to watch. But in an alternate version, I'm certainly there would be, ahem, something else happening that I'm sure Sam would be puzzled at (or confirming his suspicions for, as reading plenty of fics I'm kind of convinced that Sam would figure out the Dean/Cas tension before his brother did, heh ;D)
Trinatrinaweena on April 22nd, 2010 07:39 pm (UTC)
Then there's, of course, the bitchy telekinetic panic room door slam, which I personally love.

no one else has mentioned this and i think it was one of my favorite moments of the whole episode
Renée: Castiel. Show some respect.rogueslayer452 on April 22nd, 2010 08:01 pm (UTC)
It's because he has ATTITUDE and I LIKE THAT. ;D

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goldenusagigoldenusagi on April 22nd, 2010 08:50 pm (UTC)
Kinda like the panic room door slam, this was his way of being kind of tantruming about

Bitchy!Castiel is awesome. He was sort of having a tantrum, wasn't he? :) He's upset and he wants everyone to know it, LOL.
Renée: Castiel. PWND.rogueslayer452 on April 22nd, 2010 08:55 pm (UTC)
He really was, and he let it be known throughout the entire episode. I think that's what fueled a lot of the BAMFness we saw. His tantrums and bitchiness gave him more ooomph to his fighting skills, lol.