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18 May 2010 @ 06:48 am
Day 1: "You axed that? You bastards!"  
Saw this meme going around and figured it looked interesting and kinda fun. Plus a way to discuss different shows other than the ones I've been obsessing about for a long while now, and a distraction from things happening in fandom so. Here we go.

Day 1: A show that never should have been cancelled.




I got into Carnivàle some time after it was canceled, but once I started watching it I couldn't believe such a masterpiece of a show had been canceled. There's something about these kinds of shows I'm attracted to, and this had that kind of mixture of many different attributes that I look for in a television series which I know will hold my interest.

Carnivàle premiered in 2003 on HBO and was canceled in 2005 just after two seasons. Its entire premise is a fantastical phenomenal which combines a historical past of the Great Depression and the Dust Bowl, along with something incredibly mystical and mysterious, also frightening. The central theme is about Good versus Evil, which holds a strong and deep religious mythology throughout the entire show, and everything is tied together. I don't think there's ever been a television series which goes so blatant with its religious allegories yet hides all these mysterious clues about the characters and events happening so well. The characters/actors, the mythology, the settings, the history and the time period, the story overall, it's just incredibly rich and well produced and created that it's a shame that they canceled it the way they did after only two seasons. Which, of course, it ends on a very powerful cliffhanger leaving fans craving for more. Why ratings dropped in its second season, I have no idea.

Also, when you read up on the mythology of Carnivàle you can really tell they weren't fucking around with this, they did their research, they molded it into their own and made sure to integrate it so subtly yet cleverly into the show so when you look back, or even just watching for the first time, you can take guesses on such clues that were given. They are not only thorough but it works, even if you don't clearly understand everything. You can see from creator's words that he had a particular vision for his work, which is to allow the audience to have different interpretations without giving explicit details away of ruining the experience. To me, that's smart storytelling. And knowing what peaks my interests, I love shows that have complexities and heavily mythological arcs that make you question and have theories and different viewpoints. It's what fascinates me the most, and this show had it. It's unfortunate it ended too soon when it was getting right at the climax of everything, and maybe one day Daniel Knauf will be able to finish telling the story.

I just, I really adore this show. I do. I rarely ever talk about it, but it's one of those rare gems that is hardly ever recognized that much these days, hence why I chose this above all the other shows I could have used. And anyone that knows me knows that I'm very fascinated with anything dealing with theology and religious themes, or just well constructed mythos in general, which this show is heavily dosed with and its mythology is just incredibly rich and compelling, I just could not ignore it and I'm glad I was introduced to this show. Late, but I'm definitely on the bandwagon for sure.

Ron D. Moore was a producer on this show too so, that kinda helps as well knowing the kind of quality you'll be getting.

And I keep saying this, but this is what Supernatural should have turned into this last season. I'm serious. Good versus Evil, Light versus Darkness, choices versus destiny and fatalism, the Final Battle which determines the End Times, etc. That kind of rich material added in a show's mythology shouldn't be wasted or ignored, it should be embraced and explored further.

This calls for a Supernatural/Carnivàle crossover, yes/yes?


Day 01: A show that never should have been cancelled
Day 02 - A show that you wish more people were watching
Day 03 - Your favorite new show (aired this TV season)
Day 04 - Your favorite show ever
Day 05 - A show you hate
Day 06 - Favorite episode of your favorite TV show
Day 07 - Least favorite episode of your favorite TV show
Day 08 - A show everyone should watch
Day 09 - Best scene ever
Day 10 - A show you thought you wouldn't like but ended up loving
Day 11 - A show that disappointed you
Day 12 - An episode you've watched more than 5 times
Day 13 - Favorite childhood show
Day 14 - Favorite male character
Day 15 - Favorite female character
Day 16 - Your guilty pleasure show
Day 17 - Favorite mini series
Day 18 - Favorite title sequence
Day 19 - Best TV show cast
Day 20 - Favorite kiss
Day 21 - Favorite ship
Day 22 - Favorite series finale
Day 23 - Most annoying character
Day 24 - Best quote
Day 25 - A show you plan on watching (old or new)
Day 26 - OMG WTF? Season finale
Day 27 - Best pilot episode
Day 28 - First TV show obsession
Day 29 - Current TV show obsession
Day 30 - Saddest character death



Random question: how come everything is becoming 3D? What is the fascination with this trend of turning movies into 3D? And not just in theaters, but with DVDs too. Like, are people that bored with movies these days? I don't get it, I don't understand it. Unless you wanna be high while watching something in 3D, but other than that I don't see the point in 3Ding everything. It's just...weird. And unnecessary.

Also, beware of the robotic apocalypse. All of this has happened before....
 
 
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kitchensexslavekitchensexslave on May 18th, 2010 01:52 pm (UTC)
*enters film student geek mode*

We've been talking about 3D films a lot recently in class and it seems to be that the cinemas are trying to attract audiences away from tv, the internet and DVDs. They do this by offering something you can't get anywhere else (but then 3D tv is invented :P) and so you get bullshit like Clash of the Titans in 3D. It wasn't actually shot in 3D, it was just put through a computer (at a cost of thousands of dollars per minute) to fake-3D it, which looks shite.
Renéerogueslayer452 on May 18th, 2010 02:02 pm (UTC)
Heh. I figured, since most of the movies they're putting in 3D weren't meant to be like that, so I can imagine it just looks incredibly hokey when they try to fake it for the public. Which is kind of a rip-off, in all honesty.
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kaiyotekaiyote on May 18th, 2010 02:15 pm (UTC)
ikr? I don't get the hoopla with 3D AT ALL.

I'll stick with normal ol' tv and movies until holodecks get invented, kthnx.
Renée: Cylons. By your command!rogueslayer452 on May 19th, 2010 12:55 am (UTC)
LOL YES HOLODECKS! I NEED THOSE LIKE NOW, THIS IS THE 21ST CENTURY IS IT NOT? ;p
She that is Me: RDM:  Pretty Fucking Ninjasweetsyren on May 18th, 2010 02:24 pm (UTC)
Drive-by comment to say: CARNIVALE FTmfW! Damn I loved that show. Same as Deadwood. Awesome shows - cancelled before it's time.
Renée: BSG. ALL ALONG THE WATCHTOWER.rogueslayer452 on May 19th, 2010 12:58 am (UTC)
I totally need to see Deadwood. I've heard about it but never saw it, but once learning that Jim Beaver is in it I'm like, now I totally must see this show. That'll be next on my list. ;D

Yes. It's sad that these shows never got that chance to really grow and expand and show is what they're made of. Carnivale was so rich and complex, and once you watch it and realize just where they were going and how deep the mythology and story was, you start thinking why was it even canceled to begin with? This shit is awesome. The quality is amazing, it's so gorgeous in tone and filming and the story and just, yeah. I don't get it. Always the good things are shortly lived. *sigh*
just a small town girl: [text] i want to be a robotcarameltrap on May 18th, 2010 03:31 pm (UTC)
3D? What's that? I don't get the fuss about it. I did wonder what will happen if I had watched Avatar in 3D. Probably get vertigo.

Oh, I've heard of this show. I didn't know they cancelled it. Why do they always cancel good shows? >:D
Renée: Castiel. Guardian angel.rogueslayer452 on May 19th, 2010 01:02 am (UTC)
I haven't seen Avatar, but I know I'd get vertigo just by watching the previews alone and in non-3D.

I don't know, bb. It's such a shame. The amazing quality shows that have something going for them are always short-lived, and that's just sad. YOU SHOULD TOTALLY WATCH IT THOUGH! IT IS JUST GORGEOUSLY AMAZING. :D
just a small town girl: [supernatural] there's a light in youcarameltrap on May 19th, 2010 08:49 am (UTC)
A lot of the scenes in that movie gave me vertigo.

Adding that to my list of shows to watch. I'm hoping that the site where I get the shows I watch from won't be thwarting me like it's been doing for the last few days. So annoying!
Nicole Anell: emilie girlcrushnicole_anell on May 18th, 2010 06:38 pm (UTC)
I really liked Carnivale! Only saw season one though, but I really dug the agents of Good vs. Evil thing. And it had the best opening credits ever.
Renée: Kahlan. Smile.rogueslayer452 on May 19th, 2010 01:03 am (UTC)
The opening credits are just beautifully done, and when you read the significance to why they did the credits the way they did it makes much more sense and matches what the show is all about. Just, love. <3
icecoldrain: Warehouse 13 - Booksicecoldrain on May 18th, 2010 06:42 pm (UTC)
I don't know, but I'm going see HP in 3D lol. The real question is, why is there a sequel to everything? We don't need a Hangover 2, we didn't need Cinderella and the Little Mermaid 2(which were both really bad). Calm down on the sequels people lol.
Renée: LotS. Cara.rogueslayer452 on May 19th, 2010 12:52 am (UTC)
The latest HP films always have 3D, but only in IMAX and only for like a particular scene, never the entire film (unless they're changing that now...)

Because they think that if the original made loads of money, they need to make a sequel to add to that pile and possibly make a franchise out of it! But mostly, they just ruin things and it's not that great, I agree.
icecoldrain: Warehouse 13 - Booksicecoldrain on May 19th, 2010 12:54 am (UTC)
It's been reported that they will be in 3D for the final two movies, unlike the lame pay to see a movie in 3D only for the opening scene to be in 3D.

Yeah, it's just like come up with something new. We don't need sequels to everything.
Renée: Six. Warrior of God.rogueslayer452 on May 19th, 2010 01:00 am (UTC)
What if you don't want to see it in 3D though? I like going to IMAX to see it on THE UBER MEGA BIG SCREEN, not for the 3D stuff.

They're either making sequels or are remaking movies, it's like don't you guys have any original thoughts of concepts for movies at all? Seriously. What happened to being innovative and imaginative?
icecoldrain: Bones - Booth ?!?!icecoldrain on May 19th, 2010 01:05 am (UTC)
When I saw HBP in 3D, the screen was the same size as it usually is for the popular movies lol. The only time we were like THIS IS THE SMALLEST THEATRE EVER is when we saw Harold and Kumar. The room literally had a little over ten rows. It was the smallest room ever lol.

Nope, I did like My Bloody Valentine 3D, which I've never seen the original of. Nor did I watch it in 3D lol. Unless the remake is going to be better than the remake, it should probably be left alone. I can't believe they remade Death at a Funeral, the movie didn't even come out that long ago!
Kevin Jonesmulder200 on May 18th, 2010 07:24 pm (UTC)
Give me 2D anyday because 3D looks like crap.
Renéerogueslayer452 on May 19th, 2010 12:48 am (UTC)
I can handle 3D if the movie is designed that way. But most movies aren't meant to be in 3D, and making everything into that vision kind of says, "GIMME UR MONEY" written all over it.
lloyd, i'm ready to be heartbroken: and people say I'm easy.sapphirestar_ on May 18th, 2010 08:23 pm (UTC)
I LOVE THIS MEME. I MIGHT HAVE TO STEAL IT.

also, i loved carnivàle, i really did, but for some reason i never saw all the episodes. i think maybe i just saw the first season? i'm not sure, it's been like five years or something. but it was always something i was really interested in, and i still am. it's just ... i'm not really sure what it is. it's just so intriguing. the mythology, the plot, all those details, the characters, i mean, it's just gorgeous.

and about 3D, well, yes. i've only seen two films in 3D (avatar and alice in wonderland) and yes, i think it's more fun like that, but no, it's not at all necessary. i truly think it does make some (some! definitely not all) movies better, but what i don't get is why everything is 3D these days. i enjoy 2D movies just as much as i did before - and also lol, THEY'RE CHEAPER - and turning dvds into 3D does seem a little ridiculous to me. but hey, each to their own. if people wanna spend money on that kind of stuff, who am i to say anything about it?

luckily, though, it hasn't been such a big deal in finland - if a movie's in 3D, it's in 3D, and that's that, nothing to talk about.
Renée: BSG. Adama love.rogueslayer452 on May 19th, 2010 12:47 am (UTC)
ISN'T IT FUN?! IT'S LIKE A CHALLENGE YOU PUT ON YOURSELF WITH TALKING ABOUT YOUR SHOWS. I LOVE IT.

When I first was introduced to Carnivale I had watched a season trailer and a few episodes online, and I thought to myself "I have to get this on DVD" Unfortunately it took a while because the costs were like $100 per DVD boxset, and I think they still are. But once I did I was grateful because it really is just a grand series all around. And you are so right, it's so gorgeous from the details and the filming and just, everything. You don't see enough shows like that these days.

Yeah. Certain movies here and there it's alright, but it seems like they want to make everything 3D which is kind of ridiculous. It's like okay, step back from the technology folks.
the infraggable crunkblualbino on May 18th, 2010 09:35 pm (UTC)
Wow, that show sounds kind of amazing. It's sad I've never heard of it!

Ugh, I hate 3D movies. I just think that film makers rely waaaaaaaaay too much on effects these days.
Renéerogueslayer452 on May 19th, 2010 12:37 am (UTC)
It's just a great show, two seasons worth of amazing material and a fantastic mythology with the characters and story. It's never too late to get into it! :D

*nods* It's sad how filmmakers generally lack the innovative imaginations, like everything is about CGI and 3D and it's like okay, we know it's all cool with these new toys and technological advancements, but know where to limit yourself. 3D is really kind of grating when you put it in everything. I just found out that one of my favorite films is being re-released in a 3D DVD and I'm like, ffs.
bold_seer: faintbold_seer on May 18th, 2010 10:23 pm (UTC)
I watched that show for a while and thought it was great!

how come everything is becoming 3D?

NOOOOOOOO!!! I saw Alice in 3D and that was just painful; glasses on glasses and a headache-y feeling. I know it would be different, but so unnecessary, y/y?
Renée: Castiel. I don't understand.rogueslayer452 on May 19th, 2010 12:32 am (UTC)
It really is, I think it's a rare gem of a show that had loads of intriguing aspects that should be discussed more and people should get into it even after all these years. It's just amazing.

DEFINITELY unnecessary, especially since some movies were never meant to be 3D anyway. I mean what's the point?
cheerful_earl: bad romancecheerful_earl on May 19th, 2010 03:13 am (UTC)
Oooh, I love this meme and I am stealing it.

I still have yet to watch Carnivale, but you've made me want to watch it even more.

I don't understand the 3D thing. I just don't understand it. It is unnecessary!
Renée: Castiel. Guardian angel.rogueslayer452 on May 19th, 2010 03:30 am (UTC)
Hee, steal away bb! ;D

It's a very good series, though the end makes you want more even though you'll know you won't get it. Which is sad, but overall it's a very enjoyable and intriguing show. I highly recommend it.

3D is only okay in moderation and when needed, but it's everywhere these days that it's just cluttering everything. Not good.
cheerful_earl: Castielcheerful_earl on May 19th, 2010 05:46 am (UTC)
I will definitely be watching Carnivale. I have a friend who really wants to see it, so we'll probably watch it over the summer.

Some movies really work in 3D. But not everything needs to be a "3D experience." As I type this, there is a commercial for a 3D TV on in the other room. :/
Renée: Castiel. I'm almost out of minutes!rogueslayer452 on May 19th, 2010 05:51 am (UTC)
Awesome! :D Please tell me what you think when you do so, either during or after you watch it.

3D TV? Seriously?
cheerful_earl: dean/cascheerful_earl on May 19th, 2010 05:56 am (UTC)
I definitely will! TV is so much more fun when it's discussed! :D

3D TV! Who would have guessed? So crazy. It was Panasonic, I think. All HD and crazy.