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06 September 2010 @ 03:43 am
Where WOWP has taken over my life, again.  
I just caught up with the episodes I missed of Wizards of Waverly Place. I know, most of you don't watch it, but I feel like I gotta talk about something that's been bugging me about a particular storyline they introduced and ended rather quickly.

I watched the episodes with the new introduced character Stevie who, unfortunately, didn't get enough time to really be in the show because they decided to make her "evil" and then, surprisingly enough for a Disney show, kill her off. Sound vaguely familiar to how Supernatural treats their supporting characters, doesn't it? Anyway, I rather liked Stevie. I thought she was a great addition and I don't see why people didn't; she was the equivalent to Alex, they got along great, there could have been excellent shenanigans happening between them. I thought she was hilarious for a rebellious new girl. It would have been awesome if Alex had another wizard friend. But then, they had to label her "evil" for the sake of wrapping up her character arc and really kind of ended it badly with that, inevitably killing her off, and I don't really like that. Mostly because of what they're implying about how they see things in black and white.

Wanting to change the system of the wizard competition isn't evil, it just means people want a change from the structure of their government and how they deem it unfair. Sure, Stevie lost the competition to her brother and bailed before the transaction ever happened and possibly was bitter about it, but with 5,000 other young wizards who don't want to give up their powers, is that a crime? Does that make them evil? No, of course not. It makes them wanting to create a democracy over something that they seem to think needs to change because, Lord knows how long the wizard competition has been taken place.

The revolution in itself was a great idea, perhaps not planned out properly, but it's something I wished the show would focus more on and could have expanded because it makes sense that younger wizards would want to change such a rule like this. In fact I had a plot very similar to this for a story before even watching the episode, because it seemed like a natural kind of plot to deal with. Now I'm not expecting the show to be perfect in their writing -- they're actually making fun of their inconsistencies with their recent episodes -- however I hate the notion that Stevie was called out to be evil when there wasn't anything evil about her. It wasn't like she was trying to get all the powers for herself, she was just ensuring that no other wizard would give up their powers again. With the right kind of campaigning it would be been an intriguing setup for something bigger, something I kinda want to see happen in the sequel movie that will be made. Because really, a final WOWP movie has to be about the real competition to close everything out in a grand finale, and this could have been a perfect opportunity to have it open-ended for that (unless they are saving that for the fourth season, which I doubt).

I don't know. I just thought they could have done better with that, and I hated that they made Justin not trust his sister in thinking she had gone bad. You'd think after all they've gone through together he would have had more faith in her. Also with Stevie, they had much potential with her and she could have been awesome, and then they did this. I don't know whether it was of her contract or what, but I'm disappointed they left it off there.

And really, is there any continuity between the show and the movie? I just wish there could be some references between both, but then again that would be asking too much for consistency.

Oh, and also? Did the Russo's just commit murder on Disney? Because Alex froze Stevie and Max tipped her over, shattering her into little pieces, and they just shrug it off. Unless there's magic to undo that, they didn't seem that worried and that kind of frightens me a bit that they can get away with stuff like that....

TL;DR: I think way too much about Disney shows in trying to make logical sense out of them, which is kinda like trying to throw a rock through a brick wall. But heh, you know me.

I mean I still love the show, I still love and adore Alex sfm because she reminds me a bit of myself with her mischievous side, and I still support Justin/Alex until my little heart explodes because theyarejusttoocute and my OTP like for realsies, but sometimes they have something good going and then they kind of hit that dead-end. Which you know, I wouldn't care if this was any other Disney show, but WOWP is different. Seriously writers, spend more time thinking through certain storylines will ya? There better be an epic wizard competition like the one in the movie, or else I'mma calling foul.
 
 
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Be cool, Gail. Be cool.: [wowp] did you forgetamathela on September 6th, 2010 11:38 am (UTC)
That episode totally bugged me, too. And not just because they killed Stevie, because - seriously, what??? I can't quite believe they actually went there, even if it was a ~funny death. But then, WOWP can be lighthearted about the weirdest things sometimes. (See also: ex-girlfriends and boyfriends being put on a bus to hell, casual incest ...)

But, honestly - I totally agree with you that the revolution was not, in itself, evil. And I know it was being portrayed as evil (because it ... upset the status quo?), and so Alex had to be against it, and having Alex instinctively do the right thing would have ordinarily been a nice twist ;) But the show itself has both shown and told us how terrible the wizard competition actually is - hell, they had an entire episode devoted to the way it tears families apart, the Russos' included - so I really, really never understood why they didn't explore the morality of that even a little bit, or why Alex never even seemed to consider that Stevie's idea might actually be a good thing, regardless of the execution. It seemed like a wasted opportunity, especially after Retest and the movie and the beginning of season three, when it seemed like those were issues the show might actually deal with.
Renéerogueslayer452 on September 6th, 2010 11:18 pm (UTC)
But the show itself has both shown and told us how terrible the wizard competition actually is - hell, they had an entire episode devoted to the way it tears families apart, the Russos' included - so I really, really never understood why they didn't explore the morality of that even a little bit, or why Alex never even seemed to consider that Stevie's idea might actually be a good thing, regardless of the execution.

This, precisely. Regardless if it's a Disney show, they already dealt with the wizard competition being a big thing, and potentially a destructive event to families and the idea behind it seems kind of outdated. Why shouldn't there be a possible revolution? This was an opportunity to explore that further into how it can be changed, or see that Alex might consider this idea for the future, because in all honesty despite this being a fun show with tons of quirky things, if S4 is going to be their final season and they have one more movie coming up, I feel like they need to dive in deeper with the central plot of this competition. These are definitely issues that they should deal with. I'm actually surprised they haven't been dealing with more about Alex studying like in the beginning of the season to catch up to her brother, or anything like that in these latter episodes.

I mean, I don't want to get all analytical with this because it's not a super serious show to begin with, but I honestly wished they took that aspect more seriously because it is something they've been talking about and dealing with since the beginning. The impending wizard competition, and I really can't see just one Russo taking all the power in the end. Right now it seems plausible for there to be some kind of revolution or something similar to happen.

WOWP gets away with lots of things, somethings humorously for the quirk but having them killing Stevie like that was like....whoa, really? They actually went there? I liked her, too, dammit. I also liked Juliet and I hated how they treated her in the end of her and Justin's relationship (but she's coming back! At least the actress is in the final episode!)
Spooner: D.Flu Selena sillytonguespoonerknife on September 6th, 2010 02:48 pm (UTC)
I really should catch up on Wizards I have seen Stevie's last episode...and I really agree with your thoughts on the whole thing. One thing about the show I really dislike is how the get rid of characters, with Stevie and to a lesser degree Juliet it just seemed like the actresses where leaving and the writers were just lazy about giving them decent exits :(...oddly enough Bridget Mendler(Juliet) and Hayley Kiyoko (Stevie) are filming a movie together right now.

I've been more into iCarly lately and Victorious and it just seems like Nickelodeon is less worried about having a squeeky clean image and the writing is more constitant at least on iCarly. Victorious is still pretty new and not as good all the time. But I like that Sam is the troublemaker like Alex but they aren't always trying to make excuses and say she's really a "good" kid like Wizards. does that make sense? I'm having a crappy high pain morning and my thoughts are all jumbled :(

Renée: Haven. Audrey Parker.rogueslayer452 on September 6th, 2010 11:29 pm (UTC)
I hate that too. They do good sometimes, like bringing back Dean in S2 in ending his and Alex's relationship in a decent kind of way. But there are other characters they either give them lame exists (Stevie, Juliet) or we kind of forget about them altogether (whatever happened to TJ? or Gigi for that matter? and really, what happened with Hugh? they should really deal with the wizard world stuff more often these days). It's not like I'm expecting something of a miracle because, hello, Disney Channel and all. But it would be nice for something along those lines.

(although I do like that they are making fun of themselves with such inconsistencies, and bringing back previous characters like the Mexican pocket elf and the Flutter, the fairy, just for a moment; they should continue that streak, imo)

But I like that Sam is the troublemaker like Alex but they aren't always trying to make excuses and say she's really a "good" kid like Wizards. does that make sense?

I have watched a few episodes of iCarly, and I think it's entertaining enough and I do like Sam and I get what you're saying. But I think how they portray Alex in WOWP is nice because it's saying that while she's a troublemaker, she's a troublemaker with a heart of gold...who doesn't really want to admit to it because of her maintaining her reputation (like how she said in "Alex Does Good": "Not a happy helper, and unhappy troublemaker who quietly does good without anyone knowing") That's just who Alex is, and Sam is who she is. I like them both for those reasons, I suppose is what I'm trying to say.

I also see myself like that because believe me, I lost count of how many detentions I got during high school. ;)

Edited at 2010-09-06 11:31 pm (UTC)
Spooner: D.Flu Selena haz giant crayonspoonerknife on September 7th, 2010 06:24 pm (UTC)
it'll be really interesting to see what they do with the Juliet comes back (but not really) episode :)

thats one of my fave Alex lines <3
Kevin Jonesmulder200 on September 6th, 2010 03:01 pm (UTC)
Wow! That is fucked up!

I am so glad I am not watching this show.
Renéerogueslayer452 on September 6th, 2010 08:03 pm (UTC)
Oh no, please, if you get the chance, do watch at least an episode or two! I didn't mean for it to sound as bad as it looks, this is just something small I felt irritated about from a storytelling standpoint. Wizards of Waverly Place is actually a very fun, hilarious, lighthearted show (and perhaps the only Disney show that's decent and tolerable to watch with good acting involved from both the kid and adult actors).

There just seems to be some things the writers don't really consider for some things. Then again, it's Disney, it shouldn't be taken as seriously as some other shows out there do.
Kevin Jonesmulder200 on September 6th, 2010 09:43 pm (UTC)
Actually, I have watched an eps. or two myself. For me, it's not quite a guilty pleasure but it can be amusing.
Renée: Kahlan. Facepalm.rogueslayer452 on September 6th, 2010 11:33 pm (UTC)
Ah, I see. Well, as you can tell I love it. It's not so much of a guilty pleasure because I have no guilt in watching it. ;) I consider it something to watch on my laidback days.