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09 May 2011 @ 09:33 am
SPN: "The Man Who Would Be King" Episode Review + Meta  
Forgive if this gets a little emotional, but after this episode I can't help but feel a little lengthy in reviewing certain aspects and being analytical about things. I had plenty to mull over and to really evaluate, but even after writing this I still feel like I need to discuss more to sort out my feelings about this one. Because this episode...God, this episode got to me. This is why I get so worked up over fictional character that I am so emotionally invested in, dammit.

Supernatural 6.20 "The Man Who Would Be King"

In this extraordinary episode, written and directed by Ben Edlund, we are given an insider look at Castiel's character arc and journey throughout this season and how it ties together with what has been happening this entire time. This is rather documentary-style episode, where Castiel is talking to God (and to us, the audience) in recollecting the incidents which lead him down this particular path that he's currently on. I call this somewhat reminiscent to Firefly's "Out Of Gas" where it's several flashbacks cutting into one another back and forth to tell the story. Here, Castiel is reflecting on his choices since he was last mysteriously brought back to life and the obstacles he's had to hurdle and compromises he's had to make in stopping Raphael from taking over Heaven and creating another Apocalypse. Going from his business arrangement with Crowley, to him protecting the Winchesters and then them finding out he's been lying to them, thus trapping him and interrogating him into revealing the truth, which is something so ultimately heartbreaking (and angering) to watch. The episode ends with Castiel, sitting at the bench as seen in the beginning of the episode, finishing his story and confession, pleading to God to give him a sign, to let him know if this is the right path for him, if he's doing the right thing. But no answer is given, and we end in silence.

This episode was Edlund's directorial debut of Supernatural, and what a heartbreaking and perfect episode it was. This brings out a lot of emotions from all sides, but this is truly a masterpiece of how episodes should be.


Castiel: The Tragic Story Of A Conflicted Angel


"I'm asking you, Father, one last time. Am I doing the right thing? Am I on the right path? You have to tell me, you have to give me a sign. Give me a sign. Because if you don't...I'm going to do whatever I must."

There are so many things that this episode presented to us, so many things that need to be said, to be addressed, to ask and wonder and speculate regarding Castiel and his intentions. I could spend paragraphs upon paragraphs deciphering what it all means. However, I'm not going to do that. Instead I'd like to address what this episode represented. It is my belief that "The Man Who Would Be King" is truly showing us how much of a tragic character Castiel really is and how Edlund used this opportunity to use specific directorial choices in shedding light to his side of the story, which isn't something this show does very often. The documentary-style manner of storytelling from his point-of-view shows us a different side of Castiel that we haven't seen before, and it makes a world of difference.

Castiel is a tragic character. Ever since the fourth season we see him learning and evolving from his experiences with humanity. He's questioned and doubted his own faith, and everything he once knew from his entire existence was shifted and changed, turned upside down and inside out. This kind of character development is vital to what we see in this episode. What people forget is that angels aren't humans, and that they view things differently than we do, and cannot grasp the concept of freedom and freewill. Even when Castiel returns to Heaven and tries to explain this, Rachel asks him "what does God want us to do with [freedom]?"

What's significant about this is that this is something that Castiel is constantly tackling. Do angels have freewill? Are they forever bound to follow orders, to be part of destiny? Can there ever be an equilibrium for them to understand the concept of freedom while still remaining true to their title as angelical creatures?

In this episode Castiel begins to question whether what he's doing is right, if it's the right path for him to take because he's joined forces with a demon in order to take Raphael down. Throughout he keeps referring that it was pride and arrogance that lead him down this path. However, is it really pride and arrogance? What makes Castiel think that he's been so prideful that he's been blind to everything in front of him? Simple: he hasn't known anything else. Angels who have taken too much into their pride are known to be the ones who have strayed from the path of righteousness and fallen from grace because of their own selfish needs. But Castiel hasn't been self-serving in anyway. Instead it is Raphael who has been the most prideful in this situation, as that meeting between him and Castiel was anything to go by. He wants all angels to pledge their alliance to him because that's what he wants. When fighting someone that prideful, and powerful considering that Raphael is an archangel while Castiel is not, one has to resort to taking certain desperate measures and make sacrifices and compromises that go against their own morality just to make sure none of what Raphael plans on doing comes to pass.

But here's the thing, Castiel isn't equipped with handling something like this himself. He's only just learned the meaning behind having freedom and fighting destiny and fate against all odds, and to fight a civil war in Heaven just to maintain the possibility for other angels to understand this concept too can be incredibly confusing, overwhelming, and stressful, to the point where he starts losing himself along the way. Castiel has come to recognize that he's changed, he's become different in fighting this war between himself and Raphael, and in understanding this he is confusing desperate with being prideful in his actions. He reflects on his decisions and choices, the lies and compromises he's had to make, and he can only come up with the conclusion that it's pride and arrogance because, well, what else could it be? What angel could do such things like make arrangements with demons and still remain pure and good?

Even when he's tried time and time again to protect the Winchesters, keep Heaven balanced while finding ways on defeating Raphael so he doesn't take over and start another apocalypse, Castiel still believes that he's chosen the wrong path. Instead, this is something that shows his humanity because he isn't prideful. He's questioning what is happening around him, he's reflecting, he understands the risks involved and those who take pride don't take that time to have personal reflections on that. Again, as I've said before in previous entries, this is the effects of war. War changes the outlook people used to have, they may have to resort to questionable means to achieve justice and they may not like it, but as long as they keep that main objective in their minds and understand the core of their purpose, that is all that matters.

Castiel is fighting for freedom, not for power, not like Raphael is. That is the biggest and most significant difference between them, and that's what he should always keep in mind when he starts doubting himself, doubting where he truly stands in this war.

Someone on my friendslist mentioned that this whole episode was Edlund's love letter to Castiel, and I think that is absolutely true. The way this whole episode was told was a deliberate decision to show us, the audience, his entire tragic story even when those around him cannot see or understand what he is going through. Any other episode would have had Castiel sneaking around, the Winchesters catching him and demanding the truth out of him. Instead, we get Castiel's confession of everything, detailing his relations with his family in Heaven to the Winchesters on Earth, and the corner he's been backed into with all his decisions and choices.

And this is why I stand firm in considering Castiel to be the most tragic character of the entire show.


Dean and Castiel: "A Long-Distance Marriage"


Castiel: It sounds so simple when you say it like that. Where were you when I needed to hear it?
Dean: I was here. Where were you?

Aside from this whole episode being a love letter to Castiel, it was also a love letter to the relationship of Dean and Castiel and their profound bond -- which has now been shattered due to the events and revelations taken place. Ben Edlund described their relationship like a "long-distance marriage", and he's absolutely right. One doesn't even need to see this episode to understand that theirs has always been a long-distance relationship of the marital kind, complete with late night bickering and drinking of alcohol (and the behind-the-scenes make-up sex...)

As heartbreaking as watching all of this crumble apart, there are some issues I have with how it was handled.

Granted Edlund is pretty much fucking flawless so it's not his fault, but rather the fault of the show and this entire season as a whole. The lack of continuity and tons of characterization flaws between Castiel and the Winchesters has been blatantly present all season long, and what infuriates me is when Edlund tries to make things make sense and make them as it should have been from the beginning, it doesn't add up because the continuity has been fucked up. Dean defends Castiel and gives appreciation to everything he's done for them, he calls Castiel their friend and part of the family. Hell, he even asked him how he was when he popped right beside him in the Impala. Now, these are the things that Dean Winchester is supposed to do -- however he hasn't been, not until these last two episodes at least. Which makes the whole emotional impact or ~betrayal fall rather flat. The Winchesters have been treating Castiel like shit for the majority of the season, they take advantage of him coming whenever he's called and just use him whenever they feel like it. Even in this episode, Dean dismisses Castiel before he even gets a chance to explain.

Now, granted, the Winchesters do have certain trust issues (among the many countless issues they have) and learning that someone who they considered to be a friend has been lying to them, that can be pretty harsh to hear. And we know that Dean doesn't deal with this kind of stuff that well. However, they way they all were acting was downright cruel and uncalled for, including using angel warding sigils around Bobby's house. That's near equivalent to locking someone out of their home or disowning them because you didn't like what they did.

Is that how you treat family or even a close friend? How is that right? Can we say overreaction much?

However, despite my anger towards the Winchesters after this episode, I feel a teeny tiny ounce of hope that Dean will forgive his angel because, like I said, Dean doesn't deal with this kind of startling revelations that break a level of trust with him. I might not agree with how he's handling it, as he deserves many bitchslaps for being so stupid and self-centered (same with Sam), however it's clear given the looks between them that Dean really does care for Castiel and this cut him deeply that he reacts in such a way because that's the only way he can react. Brashly, recklessly, stupidly. I have to believe that before this season is over he and Castiel will find that common ground again and patch things up. Because I believe in their profound bond.

I still blame this season new writers and Gamble especially for being completely shitty for not demonstrating the friendship between Dean and Castiel more frequently. I mean they had more interaction and profound moments last season than in this one. I mean, otherwise the impact just didn't sell it and it didn't make me side with the Winchesters, just dislike they so much for how they reacted once learning the truth. It was uncalled for and too extreme, even for them. I know that this show likes conflict when it comes to angst, but their immature self-righteous attitudes is getting rather old. But I've already ranted about this before.


Plot Holes: Inconsistencies, Retconning and Confusion

Despite loving this episode, yet again this presented a huge issue concerning this season and how poorly things were executed earlier on. It is blatantly obvious from this episode how things just weren't thought through from the beginning, and if they were they did a piss-poor job at constructing it.

First of all, Castiel didn't raise Sam from perdition. That line belongs to Dean. Instead, he raised him from Lucifer's cage which is a huge difference, but that's still problematic because the entire point of Lucifer's cage was that it was nearly fucking impossible for anyone, angel or demon, to break into. Besides, even if he did do this by himself, that also would have been impossible because there was Michael and Lucifer down there and they would have ripped Castiel into shreds as well. Also, why would Castiel save Sam and not Adam if that were the case? Just, nothing in this revelation makes sense because it just doesn't add up to anything, and it makes it seem like that was just added last minute for there to be a ~reaction from Sam, which was also uncalled for, imo.

Because really, what was the point of dealing with soulless!Sam for the entire first half of the season? Pretty pointless now, amirite?

Also, Castiel and Crowley are having a conversation in the episode where Castiel tells Crowley that they have to find Purgatory otherwise they will "die again and again until the end of time." What the fuck is this supposed to mean? This is never addressed in the episode on what this means, unless this is supposedly a metaphor for when Crowley showed Castiel the "new Hell" that he created, however I doubt so because Castiel has died and mysteriously brought back. What if Crowley has done the same, as well? But nonetheless, this wasn't explained and I'm confused.

This show needs to get their shit together at actually making sense, and stop retconning shit right and left just because they can, because that is also getting incredibly old. :/



Memorable Moments of the Episode:

++ ~ E V E R Y T H I N G ~

Seriously, the best episode of the season without a doubt. Everything was absolutely fucking perfect, even with the heartbreaking and angry scenes. EDLUND MARRY ME, PLZ. But if we're going for specifics....

++ I loved seeing Heaven. Granted I think it would have been better to see something more elaborate for the angels and were they reside instead of them taking hold in other people's heavens, plus I wanted more of their natural selves with wings and not their vessels, but with the limited budget this show has the way they handled it was impressive (as in, fancy filters to make it all ~glossy~ and ~faded~ with vibrant colors, lol) and besides, how would they have done that anyway? They did well with what they had for us to follow the story.

++ In any case, I particularly loved that Castiel's personal "heaven" to visit, as that is precisely what I always envisioned him going to whenever he needed to get away. He just had that sincere smile on his face and that? That was something very rare to see on him. ♥

++ I need to rewatch and listen to Castiel's monologue throughout the episode again, because it was just so beautifully told from his point of view, and he makes several jokes. Or at least lines I found funny because Castiel is being lighthearted with his words. Oh and also? Him being more accustomed to talking the way human beings talk ("I'm an angel, you ass.") and appearing to have an understanding for pop culture references? Humanity taught him well, how well is up for interpretation since the latter is what gets him caught in his web of lies. But nonetheless, it's endearing all the same.

++ Crowley flirting with Castiel, even subtly into their conversations, is always welcome.

++ BAMF!Castiel = always my favorite. From slamming Crowley into walls to smiting demons, along with forcing the demon smoke back into the body and smiting them in that fashion. Hello. ;)

++ There were several images in this episode I found interesting: Raphael was sitting in a room in Heaven (forget whose) with a George Bush poster hanging on the wall, and in the Hell hallway there's a picture of Crowley -- which was really his face photoshopped onto a real life Hilter photograph.

++ I loved seeing how Castiel can remain invisible. It puts creeper!Cas on an entirely new level of canon now, lol. But I still think it's amazing, plus the way he was looking at Dean in the many shots? Especially because he's letting his guard down to look at Dean in that way and for so long? OMG. MY HEART, IT ACHES. :( Even more painful the way they were both looking at each other at the end there. My heart cannot take it, it just cannot.

++ "Get out of my sight" <--- The way Castiel growled that? omg, if I wasn't so pained by the angst I would have imploded from how hot that sounded, ngl. *___*

++ Seeing Castiel praying, or rather confessing his sins openly to God and pleading for a sign? Just breaks my fucking heart too much. Again, tragic character. Right there. I just wanted to hug him, our poor precious angel. ;___; *hugs him tightly*


Overall: This was such a beautifully tragic and heartbreaking episode, that Ben Edlund deserves a fucking medal and award for it. Fantastic directorial debut and amazing writing and handling of the characters, as always of course. Getting to see things from other character's perspective is such a rare treat because it's always from the Winchesters-side, never other characters like Bobby or Castiel. We had a Bobby-centric episode this season, and now it was Castiel's turn, and this was just so perfectly constructed, from the structure and the narrative to the story and the emotional points. I just wished that despite the amazing work Edlund did with it, the impact would have been better had this season actually been good. Instead, it made me side with Castiel more than the Winchesters because they are selfish twats who need to learn how to listen to others and stop thinking about themselves, but I digress.

Just take over the show already, Edlund. A++++++


By far my favorite episode of this whole season, hands down. Epic creys with major heartache and all. I love it. ♥
 
 
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ghostdude101ghostdude101 on May 9th, 2011 07:27 pm (UTC)
I stumbled into this post by accident, and I just have to tell you, WORD! TO this entire thing. Aside from "Weekend at Bobby's", no other episode even came close to the sheer epicness of this.

Just take over the show already, Edlund. A++++++

YES. If he'd been in charge, this whole season would have been much, much better, IMO.
Renée: SPN. Castiel.rogueslayer452 on May 10th, 2011 06:32 am (UTC)
Thank you. :)

I definitely think this episode deserves an award, just the way it was presented through the writing, the manner of directorial style, Misha being absolutely mesmerizing, just everything. I never encountered an episode from this show that literally had me in tears for days after the episode aired. There was so much emotion being let out from this alone....it just heartbreaking and perfect in every single way possible.
Kevin Jonesmulder200 on May 9th, 2011 08:18 pm (UTC)
But here's the thing, Castiel isn't equipped with handling something like this himself. He's only just learned the meaning behind having freedom and fighting destiny and fate against all odds, and to fight a civil war in Heaven just to maintain the possibility for other angels to understand this concept too can be incredibly confusing, overwhelming, and stressful, to the point where he starts losing himself along the way. Castiel has come to recognize that he's changed, he's become different in fighting this war between himself and Raphael, and in understanding this he is confusing desperate with being prideful in his actions. He reflects on his decisions and choices, the lies and compromises he's had to make, and he can only come up with the conclusion that it's pride and arrogance because, well, what else could it be? What angel could do such things like make arrangements with demons and still remain pure and good?

Bingo! You just hit the nail on the head, my dear! The fact that's he struggling with these concerns just show how good he is.

This show needs to get their shit together at actually making sense, and stop retconning shit right and left just because they can, because that is also getting incredibly old. :/


OMG! Yes! It's really embarrassing how these people are supposedly professional and yet the writing just comes off as really sloppy.
Renée: Castiel. Searching for answers.rogueslayer452 on May 10th, 2011 06:55 am (UTC)
Bingo! You just hit the nail on the head, my dear! The fact that's he struggling with these concerns just show how good he is.

Not just good, but this proves how much humanity he is simply by asking such questions, doubting himself about what got him this far and if it's too late to turn around. We do this all the time, we suffer from regrets and questioning whether we took the right path, made the right choices, and if we could go back and change things from how we did them we would. This is precisely what Castiel is going through, and it's destroying him because angels aren't familiar with this kind of emotional turmoil.

It's just heartbreaking watching it all unfold through his perspective, seeing what he's going through. :(

OMG! Yes! It's really embarrassing how these people are supposedly professional and yet the writing just comes off as really sloppy.

They've had potential and opportunities this season to use good ways of portraying certain things, however they were just going for ~the lulz~ or simply because they thought it was cool, rather than going for consistent storytelling and making sense of things. How is that good? :/
fate_incomplete: Dean/Cas outside panic roomfate_incomplete on May 9th, 2011 10:13 pm (UTC)
Cas is just such a heartbreaking character, and Ben portrayed that flawlessly in this episode. It was definately the best episode of the Season, for me it is one of the best ones they have ever done.

Frankly I've forgotten half of what has happened ealier this season, not sure if that's by choice or just because it was underwhelming, so some of the inconsistencies in how Dean has been treating Cas didn't worry me so much. All the trust and faith in the last two epsiodes is how he should have been treating Cas all season. I get some of the frustration between them and that Cas was hiding so much which was hanging between them, but yeah the writers just didn't pull it off all that well earlier in the season.

I adored Dean and Cas' 'breakup' in the green room back in season 4, and this episode just took that further. It was heartbreaking, everything it should have been. I'm still hopeful that Dean will end up helping Cas. He said he would do whatever he had to, there are a number of ways to stop Cas so that line doesn't necessarily mean that he will literally be against Cas.

I loved the episode, it has been swimming around in my head since I saw it, and its not often an episode has that much impact. Awesome review.
Renée: Dean/Castiel. Between us.rogueslayer452 on May 10th, 2011 07:39 am (UTC)
There has been on other episode from this show that has affected me like this. I still feel drained from it, to be honest. That's when you know there's a quality episode right there. I'm so utterly grateful that Edlund was the one to handle such an episode. ♥

All the trust and faith in the last two epsiodes is how he should have been treating Cas all season. I get some of the frustration between them and that Cas was hiding so much which was hanging between them, but yeah the writers just didn't pull it off all that well earlier in the season.

Exactly. It would have been more acceptable had we'd seen more support and them treating Castiel like an actual friend than their personal mule the whole season, which would have made the impact of the truth more painful and we could understand the frustrations. But the brothers have no room to start accusing, pointing fingers and reacting the way they did when there was nothing there in the previous episodes. I like my angst and conflict when it's appropriate and makes sense. Edlund's writing should have been most of this season because he would have been able to pull this off while having the levels of angst and feelings of betray make sense....however the sad reality is the show has been lacking in many areas of making sense, and this was one of the major downfalls where it just doesn't add up to anything.

Nonetheless, the emotional impact this episode made as a whole still hurts my heart. Oh Cas. ;___;

I adored Dean and Cas' 'breakup' in the green room back in season 4, and this episode just took that further.

God, yes. I didn't think anything could surpass that green room scene in the S4 finale, but Edlund proved us wrong by doing just that. I mean, the looks that Dean and Castiel were giving each other, so full of hurt and pain and betrayal and regret. Just, you sense Dean's disappointment and Castiel being so desperate and defeated at the same time. It's just heart-wrenching just thinking about that scene. D:

I have to have hope in them, too. Somehow things will be alright. Right?
fate_incomplete: Dean/Cas all of it for youfate_incomplete on May 10th, 2011 08:32 am (UTC)
This episode just won't let go of me either, which is a huge kudos to Ben.

Yeah I don't quite know what the point of all the angst and Dean being a dick was for most of the season. It would have had an even bigger emotional punch, if that's possible, if we had seen more of Dean's friendship and bond with Cas over the season.

It's a pity that the inconsistences of the rest of the season take anything away from this episode. It was a masterpiece and would have been complete perfection if not for the the directionless and incohesion of some of the other episodes.

I didn't think we would get the level of awesome/heartbreak in 4.22 in an episode again either. Which just makes me love this episode even more. Gah the looks and raw emotion was indescribably heartbreaking.

God they they have to get through it, I'm refusing to believe anything else
Renée: Dean/Castiel. You and I.rogueslayer452 on May 11th, 2011 04:00 am (UTC)
It's a pity that the inconsistences of the rest of the season take anything away from this episode. It was a masterpiece and would have been complete perfection if not for the the directionless and incohesion of some of the other episodes.

Yeah, that's the only downfall I see in the context of everything because Edlund gets their relationship right of how it should have been the whole time, however with the season in general and how they continually failed at presenting that it just doesn't make sense how we can go from Dean being an insensitive jerk to Castiel to calling him family in this one. How does that work? It's so backwards. It makes me sad.

God they they have to get through it, I'm refusing to believe anything else

I know! I just want everything to be okay, to be reassured that they will get through this. I want to believe, dammit. *prayer circle for them*
kaiyotekaiyote on May 10th, 2011 12:34 am (UTC)
Ohmygod! Thank you for explaining the whole pride thing because that made absolutely no sense to me. And I hope the show meant it this way and as Edlund's brain is fucking amazing I'm sure he intended this but as for Gamble and the rest um. Who knows.

But anyway~

Just, nothing in this revelation makes sense because it just doesn't add up to anything

IT'S BECAUSE DEATH MESSED WITH CAS'S MEMORY AND MADE HIM THINK THAT HE WAS THE ONE TO GET SAM OUT WHEN NO! IT WAS DEATH! IT'S BEEN DEATH ALL ALONG! HE IS THE TRUE MASTERMIND BEHIND THIS SEASON! I WILL STAN THIS THEORY FOREVER. ALSO BECAUSE LOL IT REALLY MAKES NO SENSE.

ALSO THE DIE OVER AND OVER AGAIN LINE BECAUSE... DEATH WILL KILL THEM OVER AND OVER AGAIN IF THEY DON'T DO WHAT HE SAYS! UM YEAH. IT'S THAT!
Renée: Castiel. Whumped :(rogueslayer452 on May 10th, 2011 01:01 am (UTC)
After thinking everything over it just makes sense in this way, because despite having been around the Winchesters he's still trying to understand humanity and the differences between right and wrong, especially with angels and how they are allowed to think, grow, evolve, how they can remain in Heaven after being on Earth and being influenced by humanity, etc. He's still in that kind of confused mindset. Which is pretty sad, when you think about how much he considers his actions prideful as opposed to him just being desperate in an impossible situation.

While Dean calls Castiel a "child" as an insult, I do consider angels to be like incredibly sheltered children where, once their main authority figure has disappeared, they have to fend for themselves and some will be followers, some will want to be leaders with their own intentions, and others just want to do whatever. Castiel is in the middle but spending too long with this war (over two years now) he's beginning to lose sight of things because of how exhausted he is.

It's just so heartbreaking watching, to be honest. The poor dear, he needs a hug. :(

LOL YES I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THIS THEORY TOO! DEATH FUCKED WITH HIS MEMORY AND EVERYONE'S MEMORIES AND THAT IS WHAT SAM WILL RECALL ONCE HE SCRATCHES AT THAT WALL. IT WILL BE REVEALED! HUZZAH! \O/
kaiyotekaiyote on May 10th, 2011 07:31 am (UTC)
I do consider angels to be like incredibly sheltered children

ITA. And this is so plainly obvious in the scene where Castiel goes back to "his" Heaven and the angels are just standing there looking lost and asking what they're supposed to do now.

Actually... y'know... thinking about it, the angels remind me of dolls in that scene. Because when they have orders it'd be like... their imprint. But without them they've been wiped. Huh. And of course there are the angels who became disillusioned to Heaven and basically a composite event happened there and yeah.
Renée: Dollhouse. Victor/Sierra.rogueslayer452 on May 10th, 2011 07:47 am (UTC)
I think I love your brain right now, because thinking about it myself it makes sense that they would be lost and confused like the Dolls are within the Dollhouse, going outside of their comfort zone just isn't possible because they wouldn't know how to survival on their own.

Besides, Castiel is totally the Echo to Raphael's Alpha in this case. O_O

(and Dean is Paul Ballard, particularly when you think about the semi-unrequited love that Echo had for Paul, except Paul didn't give into it? That's how Dean and Castiel are in certain ways, don'tcha think?)

Of course I also connect the angels to the Cylons in BSG, particularly because of the superiority complex and once a Cylon has a personal experience with humanity they have more compassion and understanding for them, and that could threaten the "programming" of their species survival by sympathizing and compromising with the lesser, non-perfect creations of the One True God, etc. Then again, I've always compared angels and Cylons together, since the similarities are too uncanny to not make note of.

Edited at 2011-05-10 07:51 am (UTC)
kaiyotekaiyote on May 10th, 2011 01:18 pm (UTC)
OHMYGOD.

If Castiel is Echo and Raphael is Alpha... Does that make Death Boyd? O_O
Renée: Misha. !!!!!rogueslayer452 on May 10th, 2011 01:31 pm (UTC)
YES, YES I THINK IT INDEED MAKES DEATH BOYD IN THIS SCENARIO. :D

LOL OUR MINDS BB, OUR MINDS. I LOVE IT.
scarylittleelfscarylittleelf on May 10th, 2011 01:42 am (UTC)
I loved this episode. I was really nervous about it though. Dean does not take betrayal well. I have to say though, my favorite part was just a singls shot where Cas looked directly at the camera. It gave me chills. It set the tone for me for the rest of the episode. His confusion, his frustration and his honest confession. It was mind blowing. I love your comparison of Castiel and Raphael. I agree that Raphael was more prideful than Cas. I can't wait to see how this set us up for the finale!
Renée: Castiel. Guardian angel.rogueslayer452 on May 10th, 2011 05:23 am (UTC)
I'll be honest, I was completely nervous too. Like, I had that butterfly feeling of nervousness before the episode aired.

The way this whole episode was setup was just so brilliant, I'm still in awe. From his voiceover monologue throughout the whole thing explaining the incidents that went down, giving his own thoughts which hardly ever happens on this show, to how everything flowed so beautifully between the cutting of the flashbacks as Castiel was telling his story. This episode was just simply phenomenal.
just a small town girl: [macross frontier] tearscarameltrap on May 10th, 2011 02:42 am (UTC)
Eloquent and well put as always, bb. Now I'm just going to curl up under my blanket and cry my eyes now.
Renée: Dean/Castiel. Bittersweet.rogueslayer452 on May 10th, 2011 04:47 am (UTC)
;_____;

There's too much emotions I have with this episode that writing this was incredibly hard to get anything down without it turning into an incoherent mess. Believe me, this episode broke me more ways than ever. :(

*curls up and cries with you*
I need more fandoms like CKR needs more sexylove_jackianto on May 10th, 2011 02:51 pm (UTC)
'By far my favorite episode of this whole season, hands down. Epic creys with major heartache and all. I love it. ♥'
mine too!

By the way I think the Heaven Raphael was in was Donald Trump's. He said 'He's devout, Trump's all things'. Talk about prideful.

'Someone on my friendslist mentioned that this whole episode was Edlund's love letter to Castiel, and I think that is absolutely true.'
So do I. It really showed so many different sides of Cas. Heartbreaking questioning Cas, BAMF Cas, and caring [for the Winchesters] Cas.
Renée: Castiel. Guardian angel.rogueslayer452 on May 10th, 2011 07:41 pm (UTC)
By the way I think the Heaven Raphael was in was Donald Trump's. He said 'He's devout, Trump's all things'. Talk about prideful.

I thought he said another name, though, because Donald Trump isn't dead therefore wouldn't have a personal Heaven to go to.

So do I. It really showed so many different sides of Cas. Heartbreaking questioning Cas, BAMF Cas, and caring [for the Winchesters] Cas.

Definitely. I loved seeing Castiel being a bamf while fiercely caring and protecting the Winchesters, the way he threatened Crowley if he ever touched a hair on their heads he would destroy him. I loved seeing that because we knew how much he loved them, but seeing him protecting them in more ways than one in a single episode was simply marvelous to see. Just an entire episode from his perspective was a fantastic directorial choice. ♥
I need more fandoms like CKR needs more sexylove_jackianto on May 11th, 2011 02:27 pm (UTC)
'but seeing him protecting them in more ways than one in a single episode was simply marvelous to see.'
That it was :D He really does care about the boys.

'Just an entire episode from his perspective was a fantastic directorial choice. ♥'
So true. I really loved watching Misha because he really sold all the parts of Cas through some grade A acting.
Renée: Castiel. Searching for answers.rogueslayer452 on May 11th, 2011 08:56 pm (UTC)
So true. I really loved watching Misha because he really sold all the parts of Cas through some grade A acting.

Which should be unsurprising because we know how amazing Misha is in general, just combining that with the genius of Edlund's work for this whole episode -- it's a surefire way the guarantee a golden star episode from that alone. Misha sold every scene, from beginning to end. I am still shaken even after days since it aired. ♥
I need more fandoms like CKR needs more sexylove_jackianto on May 12th, 2011 02:34 pm (UTC)
'Misha sold every scene, from beginning to end. I am still shaken even after days since it aired. ♥'
He did, he really did :D I hope he gets some kind award for this episode, Edlund too :D
latvela: castiel's pretty handlatvela on May 12th, 2011 05:23 am (UTC)
Whenever I do a search for episode reviews, I always read yours because they're always great and you pretty much say everything I want to say about the episode. So I hope you don't mind a late comment from an occasional lurker! :D

I just had to comment now because this episode ripped my heart out and tore it to shreds, and then gleefully stomped on it with hobnailed boots. Edlund is a cruel, cruel, capricious god! And I want him to take over the show too!!!

And I really agree with your frustration about how Dean has been treating Cas, and again in this episode. The whole sudden caring about Cas and defending him, where's that been all this time? Blerg. I know Cas done wrong but even though he let his pride get the better of him, he also did it because he loved Dean and wanted to protect him. I love Dean, but he needs to be a little less sanctimonious and a bit more appreciative of his friend. I really hope those two crazy kids work it out, because I can't take much more of this.

Ugh. In a way, I hate Cas for turning me into a panicking fangirl. First three seasons of the show, I was like "Oh, I hope Dean and Sam are okay, I hope they don't kill off Bobby", then went on with my life. Now, for the third season ender in a row I am a nervous, gibbering wreck. Damn you pretty boy angel!!! But not really! Please don't die or turn evil!

...Er, anyway, I love your review and your meta!

By the way, Raphael was in Ken Lay's heaven. I'm with Cas; I question his admittance there!
Renée: Castiel. Guardian angel.rogueslayer452 on May 15th, 2011 10:33 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much for the compliment. :)

The whole sudden caring about Cas and defending him, where's that been all this time? Blerg. I know Cas done wrong but even though he let his pride get the better of him, he also did it because he loved Dean and wanted to protect him.

That's the thing that really irritates me with Dean this season in general because he rarely showed Castiel any kind of consideration, not even a "how are you?" or "how's your war going?" It's only been this episode where we hear him say that and outright defend him with this war, and while I appreciate Edlund for making that known, it still makes me angry the fact that this whole season didn't even acknowledge that. It doesn't take a lot of effort to write in a few lines or moments between them, you know. :S

Also, as I wrote in this review, I don't believe Castiel has any pride. Crowley might have told him that he's "God's favorite" and that God loves him as he loves God and all of that, however I don't think that's what drove him with this fight and arrangement in the first place. He just wants to stop Raphael, and if he doesn't do so what other angel will? Again, desperation in time of war.

Ugh. In a way, I hate Cas for turning me into a panicking fangirl. First three seasons of the show, I was like "Oh, I hope Dean and Sam are okay, I hope they don't kill off Bobby", then went on with my life.

I got into the show during mid-second season, however I wasn't exactly panicky over the Winchesters because I knew that the show wouldn't continue if both weren't there. And the show has made it abundantly clear that the Winchesters are the center of everything, other characters don't matter. -__- Which is why I'm more worried for secondary/supporting characters than I am the main ones. Even though Cas is considered a series regular, he's been treated like a recurring role since S4.

So I'm not worried about the well-being of Sam or Dean, and whatever is behind that wall Sam is inevitably going to be scratching because, we've been there and done that many times before. Nothing new. However with Castiel and the war in Heaven? Totally new, totally something I am more invested in, for sure.

By the way, Raphael was in Ken Lay's heaven. I'm with Cas; I question his admittance there!

Ah, thank you!

Again, thank you for the lovely comment and input, and sorry that this reply is a little late. :S
nmcil12nmcil12 on May 15th, 2011 07:20 pm (UTC)
Outstanding review - I need to do a marathon watch for this entire arc -
I will be reading more of your earlier reviews -
Renée: Castiel. Guardian angel.rogueslayer452 on May 15th, 2011 10:21 pm (UTC)
Awww, thank you. Much appreciated. :)