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14 April 2014 @ 09:54 pm
April Question Meme: Day Fourteen  
Asked by noybusiness:

Ships you wish had happened in TV/movies/books/games.


** Faith/Buffy (Buffy the Vampire Slayer). Technically speaking, if you're going simply by subtext they were totally together for a time during the third season, and the seventh season was them sort of rekindling, reconciling and rebuilding that relationship after everything that went down. But yeah, even though I knew why it didn't happen, I still wished it did because, come on, there's no way to look at them (especially in "Bad Girls") and not see the obvious sexual tension.

** Max/Zack (Dark Angel). They actually did hint at things with Zack being in love with Max, how he treated her differently than the rest of their siblings, and I was all on board with them exploring more of that, so I was (and still am) disappointed that they didn't do anything with it. I wished for more scenes with them, more of their connection.

** Veronica/Weevil (Veronica Mars). If there was any pairing that needed to happen above all else, it was these two. They had the chemistry, the playful banter, the "I do you a favor, you do me a favor" friendly competition; Weevil seemed very concerned when it came to Veronica whenever something horrible happened to her and would help her own at times when she needed it. Like, I like them being just friends but I wished for something more.

** Bo/Tamsin (Lost Girl). Sure, they've shared kisses and had touching bonding moments, but that's kind of normal for this show, and it's not really enough to sort of say that they've gotten together. I want something official, I want something that says that Tamsin and Bo will at least have some sexytimes other than massive making out sessions (though I will accept that even without the nekkidness, just an entire episode of them making out or something would be nice enough, tbh.)

** Cara/Kahlan (Legend of the Seeker). It would have happened eventually, I'm convinced of that. Or better yet, Cara/Kahlan/Richard. OT3 forever. ♥

** Dany/Jorah (Game of Thrones / A Song Of Ice And Fire). Not necessarily in the books, but definitely on the show. Come on, when you have someone like Iain Glenn portraying Jorah how can you not be attracted to him and want to jump his bones?

** Dany/Jon Snow (Game of Thrones / A Song Of Ice And Fire). This is something I'm hoping will happen in the future of the series, because I really like the prospect of them not only meeting, but becoming involved, never mind they kind of feature the ice and fire aspect of the series (I'm also a firm believer in the R+L=J theory, which them coming together would be inevitable and the more I think about it the giddier I get for such a possibility.) If they don't meet at any point in the series, I'd say it would be a wasted opportunity. But regardless, I still ship them even if they don't.

** John/Cameron (Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles). It was tantalized throughout the show, including John starting to realize how much he actually might love and be emotionally attached to Cameron, and Cameron with her obvious love and devotion to John, but nothing ever actually happened to make it official. The only thing we ever got to anything close was this particular scene in the series finale. They've had numerous touching and intimate scenes on the show, ones that were all about their characters understanding each other and getting close to each other, and it was strongly implied due to John's growing trust with Cameron especially in the second season (in fact all of season two was challenging this relationship, from the premiere of Cameron's declaration of love to the finale with John being in distress over Cameron being gone and then time-jumping after her), but they never actually got together in the sense that you would think for a pairing, and it was kind of frustrating waiting for it to happen only to have the series be canceled before anything else could occur. But as far as I'm concerned, it's because of all their scenes and moments on the show that made then canon. It's sort of like Mal/Inara from Firefly; you knew based on their build-up that the intention was to get there eventually, but they just weren't given enough time.

** Harry/Luna, Harry/Hermione, Harry/Draco, Hermione/Krum (Harry Potter). Putting all of these pairings together in one slot. I liked the concept of Harry and Luna being together because they meshed rather well, same with Harry and Hermione. They complemented each other on certain levels that I felt it was more organic if they had gotten together based on the nature of their friendship, and it just makes sense. With Harry/Draco, well, they're my OTP so this is something I half-heartedly wished did happen in canon, but I know that it wouldn't have been possible. And with Hermione/Krum, I just loved them together. He was super sweet to Hermione and actually liked her for being herself; she gained a sense of confidence knowing that someone good-looking like Viktor Krum would ever be interested in her, and how it wasn't out of pity or as an afterthought or anything like that, but how he genuinely thought she was interesting. I liked that, and I wished that they had actually gotten together for real in the books, like almost as an endgame in the future.

** Rachel/Joey (Friends). I've never really been much of a fan of the show, but I'll never understand why they never actually became endgame. I thought Ross was such complete condescending asshole and that Rachel deserved much better. At the time when they were "testing the waters" of the possible Rachel/Joey connection, Joey seemed very genuinely caring and compassionate with Rachel. Like, sometimes with certain characters you don't really see it until they do something like that and it's like a lightbulb goes on. Of course they work for each other! I thought they were adorable, and I'm pissed that they didn't go in that direction after everything.

** Dan/Blair (Gossip Girl). This show was a hot mess of stupidity, but they got one thing right by having Dan Humphrey and Blair Waldorf get together....until the last season when they literally pretended that it never happened at all. What bullshit. Like yeah, they did happen in the show and I'm grateful for what little time they had together, but I wanted it to be endgame. It had the formula of it being endgame (think: Seth/Summer from the The O.C.), but for some stupid reason they didn't go that direction. Many stupid things happened on this show didn't make sense (like Dan being Gossip Girl in the end, lol whut.) So, I reject their canon and substitute my own in that Dan/Blair are living happily ever after away from all those idiots that live in NYC.


That's all I can think of at the moment. Some of these are pairings that were slightly tested out but nothing concrete was set in canon to make it official, or that it was completely abandoned by the writers for whatever reasons.
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icecoldrain: Doctor Who - Amelia Pondicecoldrain on April 15th, 2014 05:07 am (UTC)
Gossip Girl is so far off from the books lol. I didn't make it past the first season, but GG wasn't revealed in the books, or at least in the first series. I stop reading somewhere in the second series because it kind of lost its touch. I'm convinced that GG was one of Jenny's friends because she stuck around after everyone from the first series was gone.

Anyway, from what I've heard, it made no sense for Dan to be GG in the TV series. I'm still laughing at that one!
Renéerogueslayer452 on April 15th, 2014 04:00 pm (UTC)
I prefer the mystery of who GG was; like perhaps it's something that gets passed down from person to person but there is nothing about who originally created it and why, you know? Something along the lines of that.

lol, yeah, that "reveal" on the show was entirely taken directly out of their asses. It literally made no sense whatsoever, and they clearly didn't care. It's such a joke now, though. It's so unbelievable and ridiculous that it's become a meme to mock how stupid the writers were.
thekaiserchiefthekaiserchief on April 15th, 2014 06:01 am (UTC)
Dany and Jon Snow should meet! I found this on Tumblr and it made me happy: http://perkstobeinginfinite.tumblr.com/post/82768018801

I really wanted Harry/Luna to happen! They seemed like they'd work well as a couple.

I'm not sure I can picture Veronica and Weevil as a couple but it would've made an interesting idea.
Renée: Daenerys Targaryen.rogueslayer452 on April 16th, 2014 04:19 am (UTC)
Love it! I'm actually highly convinced that the show is foreshadowing their eventual meeting or connection, because they seem to have a lot of photoshoots with those two together. I know that Emilia and Kit are close friends, but I don't think it's entirely a coincidence that they have them dressed as their characters for these kinds of photoshoots. So, I'm hopeful! :D
M: Buffy/Faith = two sides of the same coinmfirefly10 on April 15th, 2014 07:34 am (UTC)
Completely agree with Buffy/Faith -- no one is ever convincing me they didn't at least have sex a few times in season 3 -- and Cara/Kahlan(/Richard) :D
Renée: BTVS. Buffy Summers.rogueslayer452 on April 16th, 2014 06:38 am (UTC)
For real, though. I'm still like, with all those innuendos and UST, how can you not see it? I also vaguely remember somewhere on the DVD commentaries they mentioned something about that relationship, and I know that Eliza has mentioned it in several times at conventions and is supportive of that subtext. So, yeah, they totally did it. ;)
Profiterole: Dollhouse - Echo and Whiskey_profiterole_ on April 15th, 2014 01:05 pm (UTC)
Yesyesyes about Buffy/Faith and Bo/Tamsin!

And m/m and f/f in general, because while more shows have one LGBT character these days, not many have actual m/m or f/f.
Renée: Inara/Kaylee. <3rogueslayer452 on April 16th, 2014 06:54 am (UTC)
ITA about having more representation of LGBT couples, especially having them in happy, long-lasting, healthy relationships. To basically be treated like any other couple, really. Furthermore, I want bisexuality to be seen as something that actually exists rather than something people mock or ignore as it usually is in media.

This is probably why I like the representation on Lost Girl in terms of sexuality, it just isn't an issue. Bo is a bisexual main character whose sexuality doesn't define who she is. We need more of that in mainstream, pls.
Profiterole: The Secret Circle - Diana Adam Cassie_profiterole_ on April 16th, 2014 12:49 pm (UTC)
Yep, Lost Girl is probably the best representation we're having, especially considering Bo is the main character and all of the people she's dating are also major characters involved in the plot, not people we barely see 1 minute per episode.
Naomi: GG Dan and Blair scheming togetherfrelling_tralk on April 15th, 2014 01:18 pm (UTC)
Yeah Veronica/Weevil had a lot of potential, I believe the actor even stated that he played it as Weevil having a bit of a crush on Veronica, so it's a shame that nothing ever came of it.

It will always make me sad that everything about season 5 of Gossip Girl seemed to be setting up Dan/Blair as endgame, then the original showrunners returned everything to the status quo in the final few episodes of season 5, even though that made no sense with the story that season 5 had been telling of Blair starting to heal and move on from all the emotional trauma with being sold to Chuck's uncle etc. Really all of the signs for endgame were there with Blair realising that Dan "loves me for me", Chuck only seeing her darkness and Louis only seeing her lightness and Dan being the perfect balance etc, just gah at how completely they dropped Dan/Blair without even bothering with a decent break-up scene

For Dark Angel my unrealised ship was Alex and Max *g*

Edited at 2014-04-15 01:20 pm (UTC)
Renée: Blair Waldorf.rogueslayer452 on April 17th, 2014 06:59 am (UTC)
I believe the actor even stated that he played it as Weevil having a bit of a crush on Veronica

See, that's cute. And looking on how their scenes were and they way they interacted, I can believe it. I definitely think that Weevil had a lot of respect for Veronica and developed a crush based on that. They would have been quite a couple together, and I wished that it had happened in the show. Or hell, even after the show.

then the original showrunners returned everything to the status quo in the final few episodes of season 5, even though that made no sense with the story that season 5 had been telling of Blair starting to heal and move on from all the emotional trauma with being sold to Chuck's uncle etc.

That made me so mad. I wasn't even actively watching the show, but just throwing away all the development and healing and character growth just so they could do that ending of a show was so ridiculously stupid and horrible writing. I mean, the show itself was a trainwreck, but that was bad writing, bad storytelling, bad everything. And it made no sense that these characters would remain together with each other after everything. Blair deserved someone who made her feel special, who saw the best and worst of her but loved her all the same, who was able to bring the best out of her. I mean, that scene when Dan gives her that tiara is heartwarming because no matter what she was a princess to him. I just. Yeah. Dan/Blair were endgame for me.

Also, it seemed that HIMYM followed in those same steps, ignoring all the character growth and development and relationships in favor of what they originally planned from the beginning, even if it made no sense to what the show as building up to in the last couple of seasons. It's like, the fuck?

For Dark Angel my unrealised ship was Alex and Max *g*

When the show aired I was toying with the idea of Alec/Max, though I got more of a sibling vibe between them. Their banter seemed more siblings trying to annoy each other rather than what we usually see of banter between USTing pairs.
Naomi: GG Blair angel by violet-cloudsfrelling_tralk on April 17th, 2014 10:07 am (UTC)
I know way more about the behind the scenes of Gossip Girl than I should probably lol, but from what I heard Josh Safran became the show runner left in charge in late season 4 and then in season 5, so he was always the one nudging the story in favour of Dan/Blair. But then the original show runners Josh Schwartz and Stephanie came back and changed everything back to Chuck/Blair (and then later Dan/Serena) with no regard to what the previous episodes had been building too. You'd think that they could have at the very least given the Dan/Blair fans a respectful break-up scene, instead of break-up by email!

The tiara scene was beautiful, I still remember my excitement when those stills came out :sighs:

ETA And I got the feeling that the actors as well saw Dan/Blair as a positive ending for their characters and weren't too happy with the whiplash that season 6 gave them. Leighton talked about the kiss at the end of 517 and how the show can be confusing when you think that you're playing a happy ending for your character and then the storyline suddenly changes without warning, and by the time of season 6 she always looked really fed up in any pictures that were taken of her on the set lol. I definitely got the feeling that Penn and Leighton loved their scenes together and would have liked their characters to have ended up together

Edited at 2014-04-17 10:12 am (UTC)
ramasi: Gwenramasi on April 16th, 2014 12:48 pm (UTC)
Hermione/Krum is my Harry Potter OTP. I loved them so, I was disappointed we never saw more of Krum.

I can't imagine Dany and Jon won't meet. I tend towards expecting... a hint of romance? The possibility of a relationship being mentioned at least? Even if it's not of the 'they get married and rule together' sort. The series has surprising turns tho, so who knows, maybe Jon just continues to battle ice zombies until his death while Dany burns down the seven kingdoms... Or never crosses.

Faith/Buffy, yes.
Renée: Daenerys. Not a queen; a khaleesi.rogueslayer452 on April 17th, 2014 06:35 am (UTC)
I was disappointed, too. I wanted more Krum, dammit.

I have a feeling if not romance, then they're definitely expected to cross paths at some point. I'm hoping. I'm not entirely certain judging on where GRRM left things off with either of these characters in ADWD, and somehow I feel like the more we expect it to happen the less likely it might seem it'll come true. But I want it to happen. I need it to.