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12 October 2014 @ 11:13 pm
October Question Meme: Day Twelve  
Asked by redbrunja:

Please talk to me about John/Cameron (TSCC)


Everything about John/Cameron fills me with so many feelings, including great and utter HEARTACHE. Just their entire relationship, it leaves me both happy and sad, and it's such a tragic love story in my honest opinion.

Like, I have no doubt that Cameron loved John. And whether this was a result of Future!John reprogramming her that way or was based on what they went through during their time together, doesn't really matter because Cameron was quite loyal and devoted to him. As for John himself, I definitely think he grew to love Cameron with that time he spent with her as well, so much that he actually felt she was the only person who he probably trusted with vital information in the future, if we're to base on what others had said about him is correct. There's much to say about that, with his life in the future being really lonely and why Cameron was the only one he could trust, but that's for another time to examine. He and Cameron bonded, grew closer, and he knew that he wouldn't get to that place if he didn't have a bond with a machine when he was younger, to fully understand that he needed that sort of alliance if they were to win this war. So that's why he sent Cameron back in time, and why Cameron would do whatever it took to succeed. Because she loved him.

Which is why, watching the first season, when John is questioning Cameron about why she didn't tell him things, why she hid certain things from him, is because she knew this is what the Future!John would have wanted. She is preparing him to become the man he would be in the future. She wanted to gain that level of trust with him questioning her, of him seeing and understanding that yes, she is a machine. But she is a machine that he could trust, that he needed to trust. She said this many times throughout the show, about Future!John and how John isn't him yet, but will be. And I think with that time they spent together, much like in the future, led to this special bond to grow more and more and John began to understand, care and love Cameron. He didn't see her as just a machine, but as someone he needed to trust, and just someone he plain needed in his life in general.

Seeing that slow build in the series is just so wonderful and beautiful, and also heartbreaking. Their scenes together are always so great, but what makes some of them powerful is the meaning behind them. Cameron's declaration of love in the S2 opener, when she recognizes that she might be a danger to John and that she would rather die instead of hurt him so she gives him a device so he could destroy her should the time ever come, when John defends his trust of Cameron on multiple occasions, their intimate scenes (that scene in "Mr. Ferguson Is Ill Today" and in the finale), to when he's openly distressed that John Henry took Cameron's chip, which is the ultimate scene for me because he would rather risk going into the future to get her chip back, never mind that Cameron probably knew what was happening was inevitable and hence her message to him ("I'm sorry, John") could have a whole load of meanings. Sorry for leaving him, sorry for possibly betraying him, sorry for failing her mission.

JUST EVERYTHING ABOUT JOHN/CAMERON GIVES ME LIFE AND BRINGS ME PAIN, OKAY. They are so beautifully tragic, and I wanted to know so much more about them, specifically about Future!John and his relationship with Cameron, but also curious about how, had that finale not happened, what would have become of John and Cameron afterwards unless it was inevitable from the start. SO MANY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS, SO MUCH WE NEEDED TO KNOW, I AM GOING TO COMBUST WITH ALL THE FEELS I HAVE FOR THEM I JUST WANT SO MUCH MORREEEEE. JOHN/CAMERON, MY BBYS! (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ*:・゚✧
 
 
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hamarakissa: TSCC - John & Cameronhamarakissa on October 13th, 2014 10:34 am (UTC)
I wish TSCC was brought back for a 3rd and final season, just so that we could see - MORE. They will forever be one of my OTP's as well. I truly believe you when you say that Cameron loved John, I have no doubt with that that she did, 100%

<3
Renée: TSCC. John/Cameron.rogueslayer452 on October 14th, 2014 06:20 am (UTC)
It fills me with sadness that we'll never get a follow-up, since there's just so much more they could've gone with the storyline. That finale was wonderful and I can accept it being a series finale, in a sense, but it was open-ended with so many unanswered questions. Ugh, such a good and brilliant show, but so underrated.

Cameron loved John, and he grew to love her, and everything was just so tragic for them I just cannot. I will forever love them. ♥
Profiterole: Dollhouse - Echo and Whiskey_profiterole_ on October 13th, 2014 12:28 pm (UTC)
Did we ever get to know if the Future!John that Cameron knew had been time-jump!John all along? Because that kind of time loop is always fascinating to me. <3
Renéerogueslayer452 on October 14th, 2014 05:45 am (UTC)
I don't think we ever did, and I think there was some discussion after the show as canceled about what they would do had the show continued into a third season and how that major jump through time streams would have altered things. I mean, it's such a mindfuck thinking about the possibilities of where all of that could have led to.

And I think most of it leads back to John and Cameron, and no matter what that bond between them was a vital piece of the bigger picture. Just, so many unanswered questions and it makes me really sad that we won't get any more.
Davidscary_robots on October 13th, 2014 01:28 pm (UTC)
John and Cameron are my favorite relationship and it's so cool to see people still talking about them. Usually, I only see it on tumblr.

Edited at 2014-10-13 01:52 pm (UTC)
Renée: TSCC. John/Cameron.rogueslayer452 on October 14th, 2014 05:39 am (UTC)
I wish more people would talk about TSCC more in general, it was such a great show that was crimely underrated and taken away from us too soon. But I'm happy that at least Tumblr is still talking about it some. ♥
redbrunja: tscc | the future's nothing newredbrunja on October 18th, 2014 07:40 am (UTC)
Everything about John/Cameron fills me with so many feelings, including great and utter HEARTACHE. Just their entire relationship, it leaves me both happy and sad, and it's such a tragic love story in my honest opinion.

True!

And whether this was a result of Future!John reprogramming her that way or was based on what they went through during their time together,

Personally, I love that we don't know. It Cameron's love something she developed spontaneously as she became more human? Is it something John programmed? Is it something he programed being he remembered future!Cameron behaving that way?

Seeing that slow build in the series is just so wonderful and beautiful, and also heartbreaking. Their scenes together are always so great, but what makes some of them powerful is the meaning behind them. Cameron's declaration of love in the S2 opener, when she recognizes that she might be a danger to John and that she would rather die instead of hurt him so she gives him a device so he could destroy her should the time ever come,

Such a great moment.