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23 October 2005 @ 05:52 pm
VMars: Speculations and Thoughts  

Thicking of the plot with Alicia Fennel. Guessing correctly that this policeman that's been stalking Alicia is actually Wallace's biological father (or as we're presumably thinking at this moment in time), I've been wondering why he hasn't been contacting his backup or even questioning Alicia herself instead of approaching Wallace from out-of-the-blue like he did. Also, Alicia wasn't particularly honest with Keith, and I'm thinking the secret is much darker than she's leading it to be. I think, pure speculating here, that Alicia thought this man -- possibly her then-boyfriend or lover -- was dangerous or posed a threat, therefore led her to leave him and move to Neptune. Starting her life over again. Or, could this be a domestic violence kind of deal; relationship abuse that Alicia has been trying to get away from, hence telling Wallace that his father was dead? Whatever the secret or mystery is, Alicia is very wary about this guy -- and apparently, this guy is very determined to track down the Fennel's, mainly Alicia to get to Wallace. I'm still thinking that there's a deeper mystery hidden underneath. But hey, Rob Thomas LOVES to trick us -- just think, this speculating could be totally off, unlike my last one with the paternity mystery unraveling.

The Meg Manning mystery. Okay, there's been plenty of wild speculations as to why Meg's parents are so upset over Duncan visiting Meg at the hospital, as well as with Veronica. Understandably, Veronica was on the bus with Meg -- so there's that moment of questioning between Meg's parents (and they probably blame Veronica for their daughter's unconscious state, considering that I'm sure Meg might've told them about the entire Duncan situation and the loss of friendship/trust). Then there's the Duncan issue -- why has he been visiting the hospital, day after day? Also, why are Meg's parents so gung-ho on invading their children's privacy. Moreover, why are they so concerned over wanting to pull the plug on their daughter? What secrets, if any, are they trying to prevent from going public? I don't think that Meg has anything criminal in her e-mails that may be holding secrets, though I'm having my suspicions that Meg's parents are withholding something huge that they're not telling Veronica or Duncan. I'm without speculating on what that might be at this moment in time, but I have a feeling that they're protecting something they're fearing might ruin their reputation (though with their daughter Lizzie, I doubt that'll make a difference).

Oh, Duncan Doughnut. Duncan first dates Veronica, then abruptly breaks it off without any explanation. Veronica befriends Meg and then Duncan is interested in Meg while he's still infactuated with Veronica, but is convinced that she may be his half-sister. Veronica finds out they are not blood-related, tells him, and then Duncan breaks off his relationship with Meg and then starts visiting Veronica at her job at Java the Hut. They get back together again. Joy! But then the accident happens, Meg is in a coma and is in the hospital. Veronica finds Duncan visiting her, and then discovers that he's been visiting Meg day after day after day....possibly out of guilt? Out of regret? Duncan, poor thing, what is up with this pattern here? Poor Duncan's been so confused, especially since last season. While I should be thinking something else from Duncan's mysterious visits without telling Veronica, perhaps he doesn't want to tell her because he feels guilty and responsible -- just like Veronica. Besides, secretly visiting an ex does seem a bit suspicious, although in this case I don't think that's the case. Jealousy, maybe slightly. Though I think both Duncan and Veronica are on the same boat of feeling responsible of Meg being in the hospital, and both are feeling guilt and regret. Although, I'm actually wondering if Duncan is still taking his medications from last season?
 
 
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Jbeauty_awake on October 24th, 2005 04:09 pm (UTC)
rogue.....

watched VM I can't believe it.... we don't get season 2 until APRIL!!!!!

Have you posted recaps!?!?!?! I have to know what happens with Logan, can you tell me!?!?! Please!

WAtch for my posts.
Renéerogueslayer452 on October 24th, 2005 07:34 pm (UTC)
You mean you want to know what happens to Logan this season that's airing for us right now, correct? I have recapped all the current season two episodes that's aired so far -- although that would be giving away the secrets for this seasons plotlines. And I don't want to spoil you without you having to experience the awe of VMars the second go-around!

Although I will say this -- Logan gets to be shacking up with our lovely Charisma. That's all I'm saying (because that's all we know, as of right now). Otherwise, it's all speculation at this point. I will be posting recaps for future episodes, so keep an eye out for them. ALSO, I will be recapping upon Joss's guest appearance in next week's episode. YAY!
Jbeauty_awake on October 24th, 2005 07:59 pm (UTC)
No and Yes but who was at the door?!?!? Is Logan okay? What happened to Weevil!!!!

Rogue you seriously can't not tell me....

They have stopped broadcasting it up here and are threatening to leave it till April!!!!!!!!! I can't possibly wait that long to know what happens....

Seriously, I love this show. Like I can not express to you how unbeliveably good I think this show is.....

I was up till 130am watching the season finale because I couldn't not know.
The acting was so good and writing and


Logan I have Dawn sympathy for Logan.... unvoluntary with a slight set of attraction. For real the guy's girlfriend is murdered by his father who was also sleeping with him and then his mother kills herself and Charisma Carpenter huh? SCORE FOR HIM! Well Jason who is totally 10 yrs her junior but she is married so that doesn't matter is Jason married?

Anyways I digress. Was it Wallace or Duncan at her door. And I knew that it was Aaron. That is always who I maintained killed Lilly....

Please Rogue just tell me what happens.... PUH-LEASE!
Renéerogueslayer452 on October 24th, 2005 08:29 pm (UTC)
Alright, alright! I'll fill you in on what happened (via the second season premiere) in summary-form:

It was Logan who was at Veronica's door....all beaten up and bruised, courtesy of Weevil's gang. Weevil was knocked out unconscious by Logan, which caused the gang to beat up on Logan. Then something else happened....apparently, it seems that Logan was framed by stabbing one of Weevil's posse. Veronica and Logan continued to go out until Veronica noticed how Logan has changed (with his violent tendencies with Dick and Beaver, and other 09er buddies of his) and eventually broke up. Logan, didn't take it so well. But Veronica and Logan are now broken up.

The deal with Duncan -- he's been coping with the revealed information with Aaron Echolls sleeping and murdering his sister, but he broke up with Meg and eventually recoupled with Veronica. She and Duncan are now still dating each other. Logan and Duncan are no longer on speaking-terms, and this isn't about the entire Veronica thing surprisingly, but because of their dwindling friendship over the summer. The Kane's are settling a law suit against Aaron Echolls (supposedly, since we haven't seen them yet this season). And Veronica and Meg are enemies now, because of the Duncan-jealousy issue.

Veronica has been trying to be just a normal teenager, getting a normal job and being without having to do anything with private investigating -- that is, until the bus crash over the cliff that killed nearly all of the students aboard. Meg was one, but she's in critical condition in the hospital. Apparently, the crash was meant for Veronica....assuming that Aaron Echolls hired someone to kill her. But that's all speculation, for now anyway.

So now Veronica is secretly looking into that incident, going back to her PI skills, and is figuring out the relationships between Duncan, Logan, Meg, her father, and herself.

Does this answer your question fully enough?
Jbeauty_awake on October 24th, 2005 09:06 pm (UTC)
YES!!! THANK YOU but now I have more questions.
Did Veronica sleep with Logan? Are her and Duncan sleeping together now that they know they can?
As Logan dealt with the fact that his father is a pscyho killer?
What is up with his all of a sudden violent tendencies?
Where does Weevil and Wallace fit into all this....

I AM CRUSHED I HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL APRIL!!!

Hey if I give you an email address is there anyway do you think you could get some of my fine American neighbours to write in emails petitioning for our major Canadian network to air it sooner?

Thank you thank you..... I seriously love the character of Logan..... And have a "Nathan Fillion" sized crush on Jason Dohring. *swoons shamefully*

And I saw Aly Hannigan.... and ugh! She was well it felt a little fake but it was Aly all underneath. I
am absolutely dismayed I can't see Josh... I might have to see if I can figureout if someone I know has the US counterpart channel to tape it.... What is the network and what time. I saw a preview that it was UPN is that true?
Renéerogueslayer452 on October 24th, 2005 09:23 pm (UTC)
Girl, you're going to be spoiled for this season if I keep answering your questions about it! But since your station is postponing VMars until April, I shall tell you what you want to know. Because I'm good like that. :)

I doubt that Veronica and Logan slept together, and even if they had it was never implied or said on the show. However yes, Veronica and Duncan are having sexual relations together now that they are consciously aware of their actions and are allowed to do so.

Logan is a tragic character, because he's lost practically everything precious in his life -- and I don't blame you for loving on his character. It seems that he hasn't forgiven himself over the events that have occurred, because he's so wounded yet his sarcastic comments are his coverup; he's circling around and hiding his personal pain. So no, he hasn't come to terms with everything. He hates his father even more now, though. The violent tendencies are necessarily violent than just immature boy behavior, like setting a swimming pool on fire with gasoline (and yes, Logan took part in this act with Dick and Beaver and other 09ers).

Weevil has some minor information that may be critical to the bus crash about the "whodunnit" theory, and it's well known that Veronica and Weevil are almost like buddy-buddy and get each other out of jams and the like. Besides, Weevil has to find out he killed Felix, a guy in his posse. And Wallace has a separate storyline altogether that involves a paternity issue.....

Sure, I could do the petition thing, absolutely! Be sure you do the same thing too, write to your network that's putting off VMars, making sure you get others to do the same, etc. More people, the better. I cannot guarantee this'll actually work -- and I'm guessing you cannot download the episodes via torrent or otherwise from your computer -- but it's worth a shot. :)

And, you are correct. UPN is the channel in which VMars is shown on; has been and always will be shown on that station.
Jbeauty_awake on October 24th, 2005 11:06 pm (UTC)
Okay I am good now. You are only 5 episodes in I am not sure how much you can spoil looking at what happened in season one.

Alright hmmm.... I have to say I don't think Duncan and VM will last because Rob is just like Joss.... he won't let his characters be happy for long but I am so excited about the Charisma and Joss appearences!!!!

I am better I promise. I will be good and not read any further on your reviews.

Send an email to programming@ctv.ca
and tell them how much you want VM on the air.

Please? and Thank you for all the updates. I couldn't bear to think they killed Logan or to not know what was happening.

Wow such a good show.
amandamorbidmuse on October 26th, 2005 01:15 am (UTC)
You totally called the Daddy Issue. I also think there has to be more with the Fennel Mystery. Can't wait to see what they do with it.

What secrets, if any, are they trying to prevent from going public?

I really hope they do more with this. If they just drop this, I'd be totally disappointed. Since they already pulled the whole "the only one to survive the crash was the only character you care about" thing, they better make it work with this Meg Drama.