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13 December 2016 @ 11:54 pm
Of fandoms and ships.  
Fandom meme taken from mfirefly10:

Your current OTP.
Daisy/Robbie (Agents of Shield), Wynonna/Dolls (Wynonna Earp), Sara/Rip (Legends of Tomorrow), Kirsten/Cameron (Stitchers), Camille/Fisher (Stitchers), Luke/Jessica (Jessica Jones). And some forever OTPs from past fandoms: Harry/Draco (Harry Potter), Buffy/Faith (Buffy the Vampire Slayer), Gaius/Six (Battlestar Galactica) and Helo/Athena (Battlestar Galactica). But seriously, I kinda collect OTPs left and right, it's kind of hard to keep track of them all with all the fandoms that I have sometimes, lol.

A pairing you initially didn’t consider but someone changed your mind.
Percival Graves/Tina Goldstein from Fantastic Beasts and Where To Find Them. Though I found their dynamic interesting since I sensed there was this mentor and protégé relationship between them based off their interaction earlier in the film, I wasn't necessarily shipping them. However, while I haven't been actively searching for anything, fandom has been incredible with convincing me that, yeah, there was definitely something there between them that implies their relationship could've been something more, or at least starting to. And you know what? I'm digging it.

A pairing you wish you shipped, but just can't.
Sara/Leonard from Legends of Tomorrow. While they had amazing chemistry and I could've definitely seen it happening, I wasn't as hardcore into it as some of the fandom was.

What was the first thing you ever contributed to a fandom?
I honestly don't even remember anymore. Perhaps engaging with fandom discussions on individual communities here on LiveJournal? Back in the day when any and every fandom had multiple communities being created constantly, there was always something to talk about, whether it was a question someone was asking or a community discussion post, anything. I would often give my thoughts, opinions and input and engaged in conversations with other members of such communities. Sometimes even befriending several of them. Another contribution was probably my episode reviews and meta posts for shows I was watching.

Have you added anything stupid/cracky/hilarious to your fandom, if so, what?
Fanmixes for some crackships I had in mind, and posted some hilarious macro memes.

What’s the longest you’ve ever been in a fandom? What fandom was it?
This is difficult to decipher, since it really is subjective to what this actually means in terms of activity versus the longest you've been in fandom at heart, because there are shows that end and even most people disperse after some time the fandom itself will still remain active. There are fandoms that I love but end up leaving behind to focus on other things (because I have so many fandom obsessions), but there can still be a resurgence of that fandom from time to time. So, I think the longest I've remained in a fandom, be in actually involved or in my heart, has to be Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Battlestar Galactica and Harry Potter.

What was your first fandom?
Animorphs. If we're talking about my first fandom I actively engaged with online, definitely Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

Do you prefer real-life TV shows or animated TV shows?
I don't really watch much animated shows, to be honest.

Has Tumblr caused you to stop liking any fandoms, if so, which and why?
Tumblr hasn't stopped me from liking particular things I enjoy, however it has made me more aware of the particular areas and individuals I should avoid, especially in the tags. As much as I use that site, it is a cesspool of negativity and people policing others about what they should or shouldn't like, and it's absolutely annoying to the Nth degree. It's one of the reasons why I don't actively engage with fandom over there, to be honest.

Name a fandom you didn’t care/think about until you saw it all over Tumblr.
Oh, there's been quite a handful over the years. Carmilla, Welcome To Night Vale, Strange Empire, Wynonna Earp, Hamilton, several YouTubers that I love and am now following, and most recently the Norwegian teen drama series Skam. Say what you will about that site, but one of its positive attributes is how, due to how incredibly active the fandom side of things are over there, I've been introduced to so many different fandoms, new and old, ranging from various mediums and platforms that I wouldn't have otherwise known about.

How do you feel about the other people in your current fandom(s).
Just like with any other fandom out there, some are good while others aren't.

Your favorite fan artist/author gives you one request, what do you ask for?
Something related to one of my favorite characters or OTP. I mean, obviously.

A person who got you into a fandom and what fandom they pulled you in to.
There's been so many over the years, my f-list here and on places like Tumblr.

Your favorite fandom (for the people; not the thing you fangirl over).
The Hobbit fandom was pretty amazing, so many fanartists and fanfic writers were coming out of the woodwork and contributing a lot of love. There wasn't much nastiness, at least from the people I followed, and overall they were a pretty swell bunch. Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Battlestar Galactica, while there was a lot of in-fandom drama and wanking going on back in the day, there were still interesting aspects to those fandoms that I really enjoyed being a part of. Getting in on discussions and speculations, it was pretty fun for the most part. And currently at the moment, I'm really liking the Fantastic Beasts fandom, or, at least those who love Percival Graves/Colin Farrell. It makes me feel not alone with my love for this character.

Choose a song at random, what ship does it remind you of?
"Hero" by Skillet -- John and Cameron from Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, mostly because I saw a fanvid with them to this song long ago and it's one of many songs that I associate with them. Though let's be real, any song can remind you of your OTP if you're in that deep and desperate enough. lol

Invent a random AU for any fandom (we always need more ideas).
One of the things I've been toying with is that, in some kind of multiverse, characters from different fandoms who suffered tremendous amount of trauma go to this one particular place as a group therapy where they talk about the shit they've been through and/or currently going through. Other characters get to give their inputs (helpful or not) and they may even befriend each other as means of comfort, which they may or may not get in their own canons. I don't know, it's just something I've thought about in terms of AUs, kinda cracky, and I pretty sure I'm not the first person to think of this scenario. But, there you go.

A ship you’ve abandoned and why.
Unfortunately there are a lot of abandoned ships, and not because I'm tired of them or stopped shipping them. It's mostly due to having moved onto different fandoms and other pairings that I kind of placed them on the back burner until I revisit them again. Sometimes I may still like a pairing, but I'm no longer in/don't like the fandom anymore and have distanced myself from them for the time being until I feel motivated to go back to them again.

A pairing you ship that you don’t think anyone else ships.
I have a hand full of crossover ships that I don't think anyone might have considered. But I'll reiterate what mfirefly10 said in her answer, almost anyone can ship any rarepairings you have given the right amount of convincing and planting those plotbunnies in their heads.

What's a head-canon you have?
To go with my current obsession with Percival Graves from Fantastic Beasts (and one of the many headcanons I have for him): Percival is a man of very little words, he is quite stoic, grumpy and is often intimidating with his demeanor, however despite all this he is actually very protective of his fellow colleagues and the few that he is close with that he deeply cares about. Mess with them, and meet his wrath.

What are your favorite male/male ships or female/female ships?
M/M: Harry/Draco (Harry Potter), Bilbo/Thorin (The Hobbit)
F/F: Carmilla/Laura (Carmilla), Sara/Nyssa (Arrow), Emily/Alison (Pretty Little Liars), Emily/Maya (Pretty Little Liars), Faith/Buffy (Buffy the Vampire Slayer), Myka/Helena (Warehouse 13), Inara/Kaylee (Firefly), Kahlan/Cara (Legend of the Seeker), Margaery/Sansa (Game of Thrones), Zoe/Tamara (Caprica), Bo/Tamsin (Lost Girl), Rei/Minako (Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon)

What are your favorite male/female ships?
Daisy/Robbie (Agents of Shield), Jessica/Luke (Jessica Jones), Wynonna/Dolls (Wynonna Earp), Kirsten/Cameron (Stitchers), Camille/Fisher (Stitchers), Hanna/Caleb (Pretty Little Liars), Sara/Rip (Legends of Tomorrow), Ichabod/Abbie (Sleepy Hollow), Kara/James (Supergirl), Gaius/Six (Battlestar Galactica), Helo/Athena (Battlestar Galactica), Dan/Blair (Gossip Girl), Luke/Lorelai (Gilmore Girls), Lucius/Narcissa (Harry Potter), John/Cameron (Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles), Wade/Vanessa (Deadpool), Sierra/Victor (Dollhouse), Veronica/Weevil (Veronica Mars)...as I mentioned before, I have so many different ships from a wide variety of fandoms, so I know I'm forgetting so many when answering both this and the question above.

Do you have any 3-way ships? If so, what?
Richard/Kahlan/Cara (Legend of the Seeker), Steve/Nancy/Jonathan (Stranger Things), Dolls/Wynonna/Doc (Wynonna Earp), Hardison/Parker/Elliot (Leverage), Bo/Dyson/Tamsin (Lost Girl), Finn/Rey/Poe (Star Wars), Topanga/Cory/Shawn (Boy Meets World)

5 favorite characters from 5 different fandoms.
Percival Graves, Daisy Johnson, Sara Lance, Carmilla Karnstein and Jessica Jones.

3 OTPs from 3 different fandoms.
Harry/Draco (Harry Potter), Gaius/Six (Battlestar Galactica) and Alex/Justin (Wizards of Waverly Place)

A fandom you’re in but have no ships from.
I honestly have no idea. Girl Meets World, perhaps? Aside from the ships transferred from Boy Meets World, I don't really ship the kids with anyone. I mean, Riley/Maya is a possibility that I don't mind, but I also don't actively ship it either.

What's a ship that you want to ship publicly, but everyone on Tumblr hates it so you keep your mouth shut about it?
Here's the thing, I absolutely loathe the shipping politics of the Tumblr fandom, since it's nothing more than people shitting on something they disagree with or dislike and disguising it a "discourse" when in reality it's just a pathetic excuse to be self-righteous and entitled. It ain't cute. Don't like a ship? Don't engage with it. Don't read it, don't go in the tags, don't send anon hate telling someone they are "disgusting" for liking it, just ignore it and move on. It is that simple, folks. I am a firm believer in ship and let ship; enjoy what you like and let people enjoy what they like. So yeah, as someone who have multiple OTPs, OT3s and multi-ships? I definitely am someone who is not afraid of the things I ship. Others shouldn't be either.
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potentiality_26potentiality_26 on December 14th, 2016 07:04 pm (UTC)
I may do this meme, it looks cool.

Percival Graves/Tina Goldstein? Can you point me in the direction of some of this? I dig it.

I'm totally with you on your tumblr fandom thoughts. The fact that there are people building their entire fandom experience around hating on ships is baffling to me.
Renéerogueslayer452 on December 15th, 2016 01:48 am (UTC)
Percival Graves/Tina Goldstein? Can you point me in the direction of some of this? I dig it.

While I haven't checked it out yet, I believe that AO3 may have some fics underneath Original Percival Graves/Tina Goldstein. If you're on Tumblr, definitely check out the goldgraves tag. For individual Tumblrs, I highly recommend prcivalgraves and checking out what they've been posting/reblogging for Percival/Tina. They also post a lot of Percival headcanons too, which I absolutely love. Also this Tumblr is specifically for the ship, includes fic recs and more.

I'm totally with you on your tumblr fandom thoughts. The fact that there are people building their entire fandom experience around hating on ships is baffling to me.

Having been involved with fandom for a long time, shipping wars aren't new. I've become quite desensitized to most fandom drama that every time something reemerges, no matter where fandom resides, it's basically the same shit just dressed differently. The problem with Tumblr fandom, however, is that they believe they are part of some form of "activism" by policing others what they feel you shouldn't like because they find it "problematic" for whatever reason. You're no longer allowed to like things just because you like them, you have to justify why with the correct reasons or else you'll be attacked by someone who doesn't share those same views. You like this particular pairing? Well, you can't because it's racist. You ship someone older with someone younger? That pedophilia and you're a disgusting person for shipping it. You like a certain kink? Be prepared to be kinkshamed. Hell, there was a post going around not too long ago with someone claiming that AO3 should be shut down because people were tagging the appropriate kinks and/or ships and they considered it to be too triggering for some people and not safe for children (which reminded me so much of the Strikethrough of 2007 here on LJ).

While it does depend on where you go and who you follow, these kinds of toxic mentalities does unfortunately spread around the fandom on Tumblr and it's just absolutely exhausting to deal with when it invades your particular space.
potentiality_26potentiality_26 on December 15th, 2016 02:26 am (UTC)
Thanks for the links!

Having been involved with fandom for a long time, shipping wars aren't new.

You're right about that, but (and maybe this is just because most of my fandoms were pretty small pre-tumblr) the concept anti-shippers is new to me. When it's less 'I like this ship and therefore hate this one' and more 'I am so upset about the very existence of this that all I'm going to do in fandom is attack people who like it.' Maybe that was always out there and I've only recently started to see it, but I don't get why anyone would want to do that. Because not only are they missing out on a chance to just talk about something they like instead, they're also constantly exposing themselves to this thing they say distresses them so much.

You're no longer allowed to like things just because you like them, you have to justify why with the correct reasons or else you'll be attacked by someone who doesn't share those same views.

I've seen that too. I don't get why shipping is suddenly supposed to be about activism, or about which relationships are the most healthy or ideologically pure or whatever. And yeah, it's scary that there are people who actually talk about deleting fanworks they find problematic or shutting down the AO3 altogether.

I manage to avoid that kind of 'discourse' for the most part, but it is pretty disturbing when I do see it.
Renée: Elementary. Joan Watson.rogueslayer452 on December 17th, 2016 06:37 am (UTC)
You're very welcome! :)

When it's less 'I like this ship and therefore hate this one' and more 'I am so upset about the very existence of this that all I'm going to do in fandom is attack people who like it.'

Yeah, that is kind of a recent development, sort of an evolution of the standard shipping wars we normally saw back in the day to something else, which I believe started on Tumblr because of the rise of the social justice awareness. Unfortunately, this caused some to take the very concept of learning and becoming more aware of social issues and instead of discussing it like mature adults, they are sadly abusing it to where it becomes a self-righteous game of moral superiority. Seeing such behavior and the damage it causes for everyone is both disgusting and disheartening, because while there can be good points featured that is worth examining it often gets overshadowed by the levels of toxicity that occurs. :/

Edited at 2016-12-17 06:39 am (UTC)