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19 January 2011 @ 08:54 am
30 Days of Supernatural: Days Seven and Eight  
Day 7 - Your favorite Dean crying scene

Jensen does an incredible job with all his emotional scenes in this show. To be honest he deserves a frakking award for each and every one of them. There's something outstanding the way that he does it, and while some people call it "pretty boy crying" I think it's more than that. It's part of his character personality, the way he restrains himself, he compartmentalizes his emotions and he tries to hold it in until it gradually tears him apart. But he holds it together nonetheless. So really it's the build-up to those moments that really affect me the most about Jensen's performances in these kinds of scenes, because there's a sense of vulnerability that we don't often see with Dean and it really is fantastic to see on the screen.

As for favorite, I think I'm torn between the hospital scene at the end of "OTHOAP" and him revealing what happened to him in Hell at the end of "Heaven and Hell". Both are incredibly effective and there's something about him opening up like that which makes my heart ache.

Day 8 - Your favorite Sam crying scene

None. I find his crying scenes to be mostly ridiculous.

By this I mean that those kinds of scenes aren't his strongest suit in terms of his acting. He's more efficient with giving sad!face and puppy!eyes than emotional crying scenes, because otherwise it looks incredibly forced and overacted on his part. I mean that scene with him in "Heart" is a prime example of that. I was kind of embarrassed for him since that really was kind of a laughable scene, to be honest with you. It looked more along the lines of this:

I mean, it's like someone literally drenched his face in that scene, and I know some will argue that crying irl is never pretty and it's more "realistic" that way, and that's fine if they think so and are affected by it. I'm just not. It's better to downplay those scenes and have him just be sad in a subtle manner rather than shedding the tears. Leave those scenes to Jensen, please.

Rest of the 30 Days of Supernatural Challenge.

There's this talk about SPN getting a seventh season, and while I'm still on the DO NOT WANT bandwagon, I have been rethinking certain options.

Most shows that are extended longer than originally planned go through horrible seasons at some point or another, it's just inevitable. I hated the thought of extending to a sixth season and a seventh season is rather pointless considering how I think the story should have ended after season five because really, what else is there after a biblical apocalypse? However, I've thought about how having the show canceled after this poorly handled season would be kind of bad, and kind of an embarrassment overall. If the show needs to go out with a bang this is definitely not the season to do it seeing how it's failing left and right. So I'll accept them having a seventh season ONLY IF they get rid of Sera Gamble as showrunner and writer, just off the show for good plz, bring back Jeremy Carver and have him and/or Ben Edlund take over if Kripke isn't going to return, and have yet another apocalyptic arc/or something similar to finish off the entire story so we can have that explosive bang like Kripke had originally wanted for his show to have, and to have it be for real this time, not just some anticlimactic nonsense they pulled last season.

If certain shows could rise from the ashes of being a disappointment in the end, there may be a chance to save this one before it runs itself further into the ground. If done right, of course. Just putting it out there, is all.
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what doesn't kill me better run: val: smooth rayban wearing motherfuckercarlyinrome on January 19th, 2011 05:19 pm (UTC)

I don't watch Supernatural, but I do agree that the world would be a better place if Ben Edlund had his own show.

Renée: Firefly. Big Damn Heroes.rogueslayer452 on January 19th, 2011 05:36 pm (UTC)
I absolutely agree. He is just amazing. ♥
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no good eitheralanna_zero on January 19th, 2011 07:28 pm (UTC)
What would a seventh season even be ABOUT? I mean, yeah somehow it would suck for the show to go out like this, but then again, I don't see how a seventh season would made things any better. Maybe if they - like you suggested - change some of the writers etc., but even then...IDK.
Renée: SPN. Castiel.rogueslayer452 on January 19th, 2011 10:10 pm (UTC)
I'm not entirely sure myself, to be honest with you. There seems to be no definite plan plot-wise, because this season has been all over the place I'm not entirely sure what the seasonal arc is about. The only relevant things are purgatory/Heaven's civil war, but as a whole I'm not entirely sure how this fits into the grander scheme of what the show has been mainly about. So, yeah, idk either. :/
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Tracy: Dean/Cas Constantalexwhitman25 on January 19th, 2011 07:42 pm (UTC)
I just don't see the show improving with another season. It's like they have nowhere left to go (except continual rehashes) and that is part of the problem with this season. Too many of the longtime writers have moved on and the new writers are just plopping stuff out there. I don't see Carver returning with his heavy involvement in Being Human (and while part of me is sad about that, part of me is happy for him). And honestly Show has been going downhill for awhile now. I mean last season was it's own version of a clusterfuck and wasted potential.

Eh, I should just hush my mouth. I think I'm at all new levels of MEHNESS with SPN. Even reading the new spoilers hasn't helped. Some of the things leaked sound promising, but I don't have high hopes for the execution of them.
Renée: SPN. Castiel.rogueslayer452 on January 20th, 2011 09:06 am (UTC)
I'm feeling the same way. The show has been gradually going downhill since the latter half of last season and it would take a miracle to bring it up from being a complete disaster. It's unfortunate, because they had great things going for it until they fucked it up.

Also reading the spoilers and some things do look promising, but it all depends on how it's handled and knowing this show that can depend on the writers and direction. It's sad that we have to rely on specific people to do the show justice and not trusting them as an ensemble team. :(
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Revyallodole on January 19th, 2011 08:28 pm (UTC)
Ben Edlund should just take over the world and everything would be aww-right.

I don't really want a seventh season and although I've mostly liked this season (and from the spoilers I'd say the second half of this season is gonna be better than the first half- ALSO, GET RID OF MEG. RIGHT NOW!) I just fear I'll stop liking it for good. DNW that thought. Jeremy Carver should just come back :C
Revyallodole on January 19th, 2011 08:30 pm (UTC)
because I can't edit my comments, I'll just put this here.. honestly, as said before, what would the seventh season even be about? Since it seems like they're gonna delve into the Purgatory/Heavenly Civil War-storyline for the rest of this season, I have no idea what they could think of next.
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Renée: Castiel. Searching for answers.rogueslayer452 on January 20th, 2011 08:51 am (UTC)
He really should, he's just that awesome and I have complete faith in him for doing right in my fandoms. ♥

If they still have Gamble in charge and doing the same bullshit they've one this season I'm fearing the same thing. D: Do not want anymore fuckups, at least with Edlund and Carver being on the forefront of the show I wouldn't be this worried or fearsome of the future of the show, or how it'll end. Or fearing that there won't be an end. D: D: D:
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goldenusagigoldenusagi on January 19th, 2011 08:33 pm (UTC)
They'd have to really get their shit together to go out with a bang. Most of the time, IMO, once a show sucks changes like SPN has done, it never recovers.

Edited at 2011-01-19 08:34 pm (UTC)
Renée: Castiel. Guardian angel.rogueslayer452 on January 20th, 2011 08:32 am (UTC)
This is true, it would take a lot to repair the damage this show has already done and recover from the clusterfuck this season has brought us. Again, they have great ideas but they are poorly executed and not well-thought out at all. :/

It could have the luck of BTVS, since IMO I thought the series ended nicely with the seventh season, since S6 sucked so hard. It might be explosive but it can definitely be great in concluding everything on a grander scale, something that last season should have had but didn't.
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Tori Sakanaepicycles on January 19th, 2011 09:05 pm (UTC)
Carver Edlund season = DO WANT YES PLEASE. :D I have had the biggest career envy for Ben Edlund -- he's truly a talented guy and that talent's shown up on a lot of great shows. He invented the Tick and ran both of the shows, he gave the world Bad Horse and Jaynestown, he writes Cas better than anyone else... And Jeremy Carver provides my Gabriel fix and a steady supply of awesome. Can there be cons where the writers show up? Because I want to fangirl at them. :D

So if they did a seventh season, that might be okay. If anything, I think they'd step away from the obsessive All About the Winchesters focus that stifles the show (IMHO.) It's a big universe to play in and I think they coudl do something amazing if they let the show expand a little bit beyond the circle of SamnDean.

(Also I TOTALLY AGREE re: crying scenes. Jensen = amazing, Jared = DNW. I haven't even seen Heart because I don't want to see him snivel. The gifs of that are more than enough for me.)
Renée: SPN. Crowley > Everyone.rogueslayer452 on January 20th, 2011 08:27 am (UTC)
Can there be cons where the writers show up? Because I want to fangirl at them. :D

OH GOD YES, THAT WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC. I think there needs to be a convention or just panels for the writers/producers of the show because what better opportunity to ask all these burning questions that we fans have that the actors cannot answer? Edlund and Carver would be perfect because I want to know their process of writing and understanding the story, whereas the the others I would want to know why they aren't doing the same thing. ;p

I know that Creation did have Jane Espenson and Tim Minear for one of the Whedon panels a little while ago, and they discussed writing at length it was just amazing listening to them talk. It would be great if they got more for other cons/panels.

It's a big universe to play in and I think they coudl do something amazing if they let the show expand a little bit beyond the circle of SamnDean.

Exactly. There are so many opportunities that have been missed because we keep going back to the Winchester angstfest and, while yes their story is what is the centerfold of the show, it's not all what there is and with everything they've done it's like we've covered pretty much everything already. They need to move on from repeating the same-old schtick with them and focus on something grander. Which I had thought was what the apocalypse was about, you know? Something they were both tied to but on a grander scale than they ever anticipated. Unfortunately they ended it lamely which brings us to whatever this season contains.

I haven't even seen Heart because I don't want to see him snivel. The gifs of that are more than enough for me.

lol it really is that horrible. I get he's sad but, wtf with the over-dramatic sniveling? lol forever. The only worthy scene of that horrid episode was Jensen's manly tear at the very very end of that episode before the credits roll. That's the only exciting thing. Heh.

Edited at 2011-01-20 08:34 am (UTC)
kaiyotekaiyote on January 20th, 2011 12:20 am (UTC)
lol @ us both basically skipping Day 8.

I am going to echo that "What would a 7th season even be about" comment 'cause seriously. wtf is this season even about?

Although if a 7th season were run by Carver/Edlund? OH GOD, YES PLZ.
Renée: BTVS. Buffy Summers.rogueslayer452 on January 20th, 2011 07:41 am (UTC)

Seriously though, the fact that this season is rather dismissive of giving us anything of stability with this seasonal arc that I'm not entirely sure what a possible seventh season might be about. However I'm reminded of BTVS, because the sixth season pretty much sucked, but the seventh season kind of picked up and really kind of gave more of a mytharc mystery that tied things together. So I'm hoping SPN goes in that route, at least giving us something. But I would rather them having a plan than just continuing on like it appears they are doing.

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