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13 May 2011 @ 07:29 am
Save the cheerleader...well, you know the rest.  
Anyone remember Heroes? Seriously, what the fuck happened to that show?

I suddenly got the urge to marathon the first season (aka The Only Season That Matters) and seriously, what happened that made everything just go completely downhill after that? The show had much potential and it clearly shows that they had something going for them, but it got lost after the first season ended. I mean seriously, the mysteries kept you guessing, the characters and their stories were engaging and not stupidly annoying or overexposed as they became later on, and they actually had a plot, which was immediately retconned seasons after. Things actually made sense with the build-up they were doing rather than the actual reasoning they attempted to do in the following seasons. Which is why I consider S1 the Golden Season, since it truly is the only one that matters and I just block everything else that came after it. But seriously though, how could something that started off so good end up becoming so horribly bad and unwatchable? I just doesn't make sense.

Of course, this isn't news to anyone who has had me friended for a long while. I used to be a huge Heroes fan. Like, I fell in love instantly. I also fell out of that love just as fast. It's a reminder of how publicity and popularity can get to a creator's head, inflating it, thus ruining everything. I'm just happy that the actors have moved on, gaining their dignity back especially after how some were treated on that show. -___-

Still, the first season remains the best and I feel no shame in watching that like I do with the others. I just get pangs of nostalgia, wondering the what could have been with this show.
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Renée: Claire. No ordinary girl.rogueslayer452 on May 14th, 2011 01:33 am (UTC)
I hated how they kept repeating the same damn thing over and over each season, with Kring's empty promises about "fixing" things that went wrong, which he never delivered on. It was just lipservice, and he continues to spew that lipservice even today by still living in that delusion, too.

I'm also relieved it got canceled, however overall I'm just really disappointed how much it went downhill after such a wonderful first season. :/

Edited at 2011-05-14 01:35 am (UTC)
I need more fandoms like CKR needs more sexy: Adventure Time-Winking Jakelove_jackianto on May 13th, 2011 03:19 pm (UTC)
Oh Heros it's a shame they only had one season ;)
Renée: Castiel. Cute and sneaky.rogueslayer452 on May 13th, 2011 11:24 pm (UTC)
Totally a shame, indeed. ;D

In seriousness though, I tend to create my own head!canon of what happened post-S1 because anything is better than the crap they spewed after that. Like, I would have wanted Niki/Jessica to have worked together and been stronger, Claire to have gone off on her own to help people in need, Mohinder taking care of Molly (okay, with Matt like in S2 because quite frankly I found that adorable, even though they left that out in the cold as well) and Sylar to not have returned until much later because his character was awesome when he remained mysterious and in the shadows rather than always being there for no reason.
I need more fandoms like CKR needs more sexy: Adventure Time-Finnlove_jackianto on May 15th, 2011 01:25 pm (UTC)
Great headcanon :D
no good either: [Heroes] Peteralanna_zero on May 13th, 2011 03:38 pm (UTC)
I loved Heroes as well. Did you ever see the last season? It was the biggest clusterfuck ever. While I ~~liked some of it (for example that Sylar ~~unintentionally made Claire realize that there wasn't anything wrong with being into a girl LOL xD), the rest just...sucked.
I think one of their main problems was that after they realized how popular Sylar was, they didn't know what to do with him. He was the bad guy, but he wasn't allowed to do bad stuff anymore or people would like him less, so they switched from having him being the good and then again the bad guy, which basically ruined him (and the show)
Renée: Heroes. Claire Bennet.rogueslayer452 on May 13th, 2011 11:50 pm (UTC)
I didn't bother with anything from S3 onward, because everything was just so painfully bad I didn't want to go through that kind of second-hand embarrassment. I've heard things that happened, and I'm glad I didn't stick around to see the clusterfuck that went down.

I definitely think one of the major problems was due to Sylar's popularity and not knowing how to handle his story. Granted the show had other problems and issues, but in the beginning once they realized that people were taken by their villain they were just at a loss at how to proceed, not wanting to risk losing the audience, so they kept him (and other characters) as their "safety net", if you will. I do wish they would have stuck to their original plan at rotating characters, not having the same ones over and over again and being repetitious with everything they were going through (seriously, every season was the same thing!) Just, ugh.
The Proverbial Bull in a China Shop...sabaceanbabe on May 13th, 2011 03:42 pm (UTC)
I LOVED season one! And I liked huge parts of season two, but even then, the writing was on the wall, and then... Yeah. Done. If they had just stuck wtih the original plan instead of changing things up based on Sylar's popularity (and frakking with that, too, because part of his popularity was BECAUSE he was evil).
Renée: Babydoll. Destroyer.rogueslayer452 on May 13th, 2011 11:29 pm (UTC)
I hated what they did to Sylar because of that. He was more awesome being that mysterious psycho killer stranger in the shadows than going back and forth between, "I'm evil! No I'm good! Wait, I'm a Petrelli? I'm evil again!" Because that pretty much destroyed everything surrounding what made him such a great villain in the first place. Of course, they fucked up a lot of things with all the characters.
Revyallodole on May 13th, 2011 03:46 pm (UTC)
I loved Heroes once upon a time, but somewhere between S2 and S3 I just stopped watching because it wasn't so interesting anymore. IDK.
Renée: Heroes. Claire Bennet.rogueslayer452 on May 13th, 2011 11:21 pm (UTC)
I stopped watching once seeing how S3 looked because it was wayyy different from what the show used to be, and you could automatically tell the difference of the feel and how characters were written. I'm glad I got out when I did because they completely butchered characters and the whole story. :/

It's a such a shame, the show could have been great had Kring not gotte his ego inflated by the rise in popularity the show received.
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Renée: Babydoll. Fighter.rogueslayer452 on May 13th, 2011 11:19 pm (UTC)
I liked partial of S2 myself, because there were some interesting things they introduced, however it wasn't executed in the right way it should have been. Some people use the writer's strike as an excuse for how poorly the second season came out, however that excuse can only take you so far because it hardly picked itself up after.

It made them afraid to go through with the original plan of cycling out the characters for new ones, so instead it became the Sylar and the Petrellis show, with some random characters they had no idea what to do with.

That's the thing that pissed me off, they kept introducing all these other characters and yet just flat out ignored their storylines altogether. They were just background props used to only further the main character stories, and even the main characters who were from the beginning started getting left out in the cold and it really truly became the Sylar and Petrelli Show. Also? Kring kept going on and on how the show was "multicultural" and "diverse" and that's what made it "special" and "unique." Sorry dude, that's bullshit since it was predominately all white characters. -___-

Don't get me started in killing of a main character but, oh no! They're not "really" dead because they have a twin! Or were duplicated! Or it's another character pretending to be that character!
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Renéerogueslayer452 on May 14th, 2011 12:14 am (UTC)
and then Sendhil was left waiting for his character to have more than two seconds of screen time.

Can I discuss this for a second? Because I recall Sendhil wanting to do some side projects when he wasn't working on Heroes, unfortunately Tim Kring told him he couldn't because he was contractually bound to the show whenever they needed him. Except he wasn't even treated like a main character anymore. That really pissed me off learning about that, because they just wasted his character and his amazing acting ability as a whole for the crapfest they kept doing. Also, I think even Dania Ramirez had some not-so-kind things to say regarding the show and how they handled the role they gave her, although I can't be sure if that's true or not.
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Renée: Heroes. Claire Bennet.rogueslayer452 on May 14th, 2011 07:00 am (UTC)
I happy he got Covert Affairs too, that seems to be going great for him and he seems happier, at least based on how he talks about it and the differences between this job compared to Heroes.
Kevin Jonesmulder200 on May 13th, 2011 06:21 pm (UTC)
Ah! Heroes.

Yes, the first season was definitely the best. Too bad they couldn't figure out what to do afterwards though.
Renéerogueslayer452 on May 13th, 2011 11:02 pm (UTC)
It's a shame, it had the potential of being something great, only to have it fall flat on its face.
chosenfire28: Heroes - Peter/Sylar chosenfire28 on May 13th, 2011 11:47 pm (UTC)
I loved Heroes and admit to sticking with it the entire series. There were characters I fell in love with early that I didn't want to let go of (Peter, Nathan, Sylar, later on Elle) and questions I wanted answers to (but never got).

The show, no matter how crappy it turned out, well always be one of my favorites. I saw too much of the cast not to love it, because OMG the case was amazing together, they were like a family and I was more sad about them splitting up when the show was cancelled then the show itself. This is also the show that introduced me to Zachary Quinto and I will forever be grateful for that, and I am still waiting to see what Adrian Pasdar does next because I thing he's amazing.

The first season was flawless, the second season was actually pretty good, and then it got lost, too many storylines and characters, never wrapping anything up before going somewhere new and having no idea where they were going. Even in the last season, they brought in good storylines, they just never focused on them and instead were a mess all over the place.

I think I might rewatch the first season again :D
Renée: Heroes. Claire Bennet.rogueslayer452 on May 14th, 2011 12:09 am (UTC)
I loved this cast too, they certainly were such a huge family together. Which is why I felt so embarrassed that they continued on with the show because all of them are so amazingly talented and it was getting wasted with the repetitious bullshit the show was spewing at them. I just felt so bad for them, especially those that got mistreated. :/

The thing is, even with characters/cast I loved I didn't want to watch the show butchering them any further than they already were.

I'm not even angry or hating on the show, it's just disappointing to me because it started out being so amazing. I fell in love immediately after watching the pilot, it was the fastest new show I started loving and I thought that love was going to last. It didn't, it continued to let me down over and over again and I just about had enough. I was no longer interested in watching something I used to like get run into the ground. That make sense?
just a small town girl: [artist: nakajima megumi] smilecarameltrap on May 14th, 2011 02:16 am (UTC)
S1 was definitely the Golden Season. It was brilliant and amazing and captured my attention. I marathoned the entire season from start to end as I got into the show midway. My cousins recommended it to me, telling me about how it's like X-Men but better.

I lost interest after S2. I didn't like where they were going with in S2, didn't quite click with the new characters and found some annoying. I really wished the show had done better because it had a lot of potential and it was wasted.
Renée: Claire. No ordinary girl.rogueslayer452 on May 14th, 2011 06:51 am (UTC)
I was captivated by S1 because it had a unique way of storytelling that was just like the superhero comics (which was their intention), however that magic was lost when it became clear that they were lost at how to proceed after the first season ended. Too many storylines, too many characters, wasting the potential of the new characters and treated them like background pieces that were easily expendable, it became too confusing and exhausting and frustrating on many levels that I just gave up.

So much potential wasted. It makes me think had they stuck with their original plans about rotating main characters, focusing on others every season, would that have been better? Now we'll never know....
Dragon Lorddragon_lord on May 14th, 2011 05:55 am (UTC)
I feel the same way. I marathoned the entire series a couple weeks ago and finally caved on buying Season 4 so I could see more Adrian Pasdar.
Renée: Heroes. Claire Bennet.rogueslayer452 on May 14th, 2011 06:42 am (UTC)
I would only go online to see his scenes because there's no way I'm buying that season, not even touching it with a ten-foot pole. Heh.
Dragon Lorddragon_lord on May 14th, 2011 07:09 am (UTC)
LOL

I really considered that... but I didn't want to be completely lost for Nathan's scenes.
kaiyotekaiyote on May 14th, 2011 11:24 am (UTC)
Man, I totally loved Heroes. It was my last big show/fandom before Supernatural. Like I even went to Comic Con to go to their panel! Ugh, it was so good in S1 and then after that it just went downhill. And fast. :|
Renée: Claire. No ordinary girl.rogueslayer452 on May 14th, 2011 12:29 pm (UTC)
I'm amazed at how fast it went downhill. Like, rewatching S1 I keep thinking, "where did it all go wrong after this?" :/ I loved that show so much at that time, and watching it go to shit was the most disappointing thing to see. I just stopped watching because I couldn't handle seeing the characters I liked getting royally screwed over.
amanda: pic#87593314morbidmuse on May 15th, 2011 12:05 am (UTC)
I will always be a fan of the first season of Heroes. There was some great television there that holds up to many repeated viewings. I just choose to believe it ended after the season one finale. :)
Renée: Heroes. Claire Bennet.rogueslayer452 on May 15th, 2011 12:57 am (UTC)
Hehe, me too. I just create my own head!canon for what happened afterwards. :)