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26 June 2015 @ 05:48 am
Stitchers: "I See You" Episode Review  
Stitchers 1.04 "I See You"

Pretty much almost every procedural or mystery show has to have a Rear Window episode.

I'm not actually bothered by the case of the week thing, I just find myself more engaged with the characters and what else is happening that appears to be intricate to the main plot than anything else. The case of the week is just part of the procedural aspect of the show, which is oftentimes predictable "solve and catch the bad guys" kind of deal. Though I do like seeing the Stitching aspect of it all and how Kirsten pieces it together.

With the characters, I'm liking the role reversal when it comes to them. It's something that interested me when I saw the pilot, at least when it concerned Camille and Kirsten and how they're taking on the roles typically assigned for male characters. For example, in this episode Camille is dealing with a brooding and somewhat clingy Linus who feels slighted by her rebuffs after their one night of passion. He thought it was a start of something, she however felt it was more or less just a casual sexual encounter that should remain that one night. While yes, Linus still exhibits a dudebro attitude that I dislike a lot, it was an interesting observation on how the roles were reversed in that regard. Camille is comfortable with her sexuality and likes having casual sex without any hangups or repeats, and prefers remaining single. And I like how Allison portrays Camille as being rather chill and laidback, but knows her own boundaries. She's not callous towards Linus despite his attempts to be passive aggressive or push for something more, but just tells it like it is.

The women on this show tend to be more driven by their work and determination while the men seem to be driven by their emotions, showing more vulnerability. If that makes sense. Cameron, in particular, shows a lot of concern and protectiveness towards Kirsten -- with good reason -- and while Kirsten understands this, especially after this episode when he explains to her why, she doesn't seem too concerned when she takes on something that could potentially place her at risk, and has mentioned before that she only came here looking for answers and wasn't at all interested in staying after she had gotten them. Of course that has since changed, but still. She isn't attached to people so much as the actual solving.

I find this fascinating because usually we often see the opposite in the media, where the women are said to be too emotional while the men are more detached and need to "come out of their shell." Here, Stitchers is providing a switch in that typical gender role and I'm kind of digging it.

Now if only they could lose the nerdy dudebro in Linus, that would be fantastic.

As far as the connection between Kirsten and Cameron, at first when the show started it was definitely blatantly hinted that they would possibly become a thing, which I wasn't so sure of. Usually whenever there's a push for a possible romantic connection between two main characters it can become annoying. And I have already been kind of shipping Kirsten and Detective Fisher a little bit, because why not? However, I am definitely getting vibes of Cameron and Kirsten. The first episode didn't sell me because of how we never got a true look at how Cameron was, he just seemed like the other nerdy scientist that I wasn't too fond of. Now that we've seen more of Cameron, and how he and Kirsten kind of work together, I can see it. That last scene was certainly something worth noting, not just because Kirsten accidentally caught Cameron in a vulnerable moment (similar to the theme of the episode, catching people when they're vulnerable and raw, something that they don't allow others to see), but because we're seeing an emotional response from her along with seeing that there's more to Cameron than just being part of the Stitcher's Program.

And there's more to the Stitcher's Program than we think. I want more answers as to who is spying and possibly infiltrating them, particularly with Kirsten, and why. Never mind that we never got answers for what happened at the end of the last episode with Marta presumably waking up from her four month coma.
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Kim: Winchesterssaturnsdaughter on June 26th, 2015 06:52 pm (UTC)
I'm not sure what it was about this episode in particular, but it pushed me from "I'm okay with watching this" to "I like this now." I think what you mentioned about the reversed gender roles is definitely a part of it. It's very obvious when you look for it, but while watching the show it doesn't come across as them trying to make a point or anything. I like that it just is and feels natural and we don't have to question it. I think that's part of why the bro moments come across as especially annoying, because otherwise Linus and Cameron aren't typical dudebros.

I was leaning towards Kirsten and Detective Fisher myself, but I can see Kirsten and Cameron developing too. I've been wondering if he might have had a thing for Marta though and how her waking up might affect that potential relationship. I guess we'll see what happens.
Renéerogueslayer452 on June 30th, 2015 09:19 am (UTC)
It's very obvious when you look for it, but while watching the show it doesn't come across as them trying to make a point or anything.

Yeah, it certainly feels very natural with how it's presented. And I agree how the dudebro moments feel rather jarringly annoying because it just doesn't really flow right with the characters...and I don't know whether that is an intentional thing or what. I am looking forward to seeing more development of Cameron and Linus' characters. We got a little bit of Cameron in this one, at least on an emotional level of his concerns and who he is (I'm hoping for the same with Linus as well later on), so we're kind of breaking away from the typical dudebro setup.

Originally I didn't think I was going to ship anyone on this show, but it was inevitable. Heh. ;p

I am intrigued with what is going to happen with Marta. Whether she was once a romantic interest for Cameron or someone else entirely. Either way, it should be very interesting once she enters into the fold.
Julie: Original ★ witch's giftragnarok_08 on June 27th, 2015 03:11 am (UTC)
I find this fascinating because usually we often see the opposite in the media, where the women are said to be too emotional while the men are more detached and need to "come out of their shell." Here, Stitchers is providing a switch in that typical gender role and I'm kind of digging it.

I like the switch too.
oh you're in my veinshbics on June 27th, 2015 07:49 pm (UTC)
That's actually a really good point about the gender role/trope reversal in the characters, I hadn't thought of it that way but it makes a lot of sense.

I actually am liking Linus more than Cameron at the moment?? Partially because with modifications I'm reading Kirsten as autistic (her supposed disorder isn't real, I looked it up, and most of what she presents fits) and Cameron's attitude becomes a little idk, overbearing and inconsiderate? I don't know what it is exactly but she's not the same as Marta and as much as he has a point about the communication, treating her like she is, is completely ignoring her as a person and making it all about Cameron's fears.

I mean I could also lose the dudebro in Linus, but when he's not being completely clueless I quite enjoy him. I suppose I really enjoy when the four (well, five) of them work together more than anything else?? You know what, give me more Kirsten, Camille and Fisher bc that's what I'm here for.

Edited at 2015-06-27 07:50 pm (UTC)
Renée: Elementary. Joan Watson.rogueslayer452 on June 27th, 2015 09:30 pm (UTC)
Hmmm, I don't know. I'm kind of the opposite since I find Linus to be more inconsiderate and inappropriate, even if clueless and oblivious with his lack of social skills towards women. I mean the dudebro aspect kind of ruins it for me, so I'm not really impressed by him at the moment until he actually shows more maturity. I initially felt like this about Cameron at first to a lesser extent, but I think this episode really kind of sold his genuine concern for me, to be honest. Because while he does kind of smother her a bit (which she calls him out on) he explains his reasons and they make up for it by the end that this is more about him projecting his fears (because of what happened to Marta, and how he feels responsible for anything that happens to those who is being Stitched), and they've agreed to communicate more with each other regarding that, with her asking him to trust her like he asks her to trust him. Which I liked, a whole lot.

I'm still undecided about what to make of Kirsten's condition though, because it could be a kind of fictional version of autism, but then again I'm not entirely sure.
oh you're in my veins: {Bones} Temperance Brennanhbics on June 27th, 2015 09:41 pm (UTC)
Linus... is generally okay for me and I like him, but every so often I am Camille exactly in telling him to shut up. I don't know? It presents as cluelessness to me more than dudebro-ism to me? The only time I get dudebro is from his interactions with Cameron and/or when he's trying too hard with Camille (which she subsequently calls him out on).

Which, the fact that both Camille and Kirstin call out the boys on their shit I really enjoy. I don't think I could have stuck with this show if Kirsten and Camille didn't call them out. Because it's one thing us noticing it and reacting to it, but having the characters call them out is quite rewarding.

I did like the communication Kirsten and Cameron had this ep, and it did somewhat make up for the first few episodes of smothering, but I'm still not sold on Cameron. I'm just getting a weird vibe from him.

Yeah, I'm just annoyed because they could have legitimately made it autistic representation by modifying a few lines and scenarios (that I don't think would change the plot) which would be better disability representation than this made-up disorder no one on earth has.
Renéerogueslayer452 on June 28th, 2015 02:10 am (UTC)
I do like that both Kirsten and Camille do call them out or at least make their thoughts known about their behavior, it's really nice to see. I especially really love how Allison portrays Camille when she does this, it feels very natural rather than forced, and it just adds an interesting dynamic.

I think the show is still finding its feet and we're still just getting to know the characters. Hopefully as the season continues we'll be seeing more character growth with everyone and their relationships with each other.

That's understandable. Having proper representation, especially with autism, would be nice especially for a main character.

Although part of me feels like there may be a scifi route where Kirsten's condition is kind of...connection to everything? It's kind of why I initially commented on the show reminding me of the Fearless series by Francine Pascal. Perhaps Kirsten's condition was considered a rare and made up because there is more to it than that. I don't know, I'm just throwing out my own speculations until we get actual answers.