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15 May 2016 @ 04:10 pm
It's that time of year again, folks.  
Yep, it's that time of year where announcements for the cancellation/renewal of shows, and some are more disappointing than others. Unfortunately, Agent Carter and Galavant have been cancelled. The latter I'm not surprised, considering I think even they were surprised that it gained a lot of popularity after the first season (which I thought was going to be more of a limited series rather than something ongoing), and even had a meta song in the finale. So even though I'll miss how fun and hilariously entertaining it was, the show was wrapped up quite nicely. Agent Carter, on the other hand, deserved a third season because I was hoping they would get into more about Peggy developing SHIELD and everything in relation to that. In addition to that, Marvel's Most Wanted, the Agents of Shield spin-off focusing on Bobbi Morse and Lance Hunter, has also not been picked up to go to series. It's ridiculous considering that they keep flip-flopping on it, since it was first announced earlier last year before being vetoed by the network, but then they took back their initial statement and it was a go, so much that this season of Agents of Shield they gave the characters an emotional sendoff, only for their spin-off to be cancelled before it even began. I guess they'll have to bring them back somehow.

Supergirl has officially been renewed for a second season, however it'll be moving from CBS to the CW. I'm on the fence of this decision, considering that this news means that there will be budget cuts and possibly actors/characters being cut as well, and I'm wary about how CW handles their shows. However, someone wrote a very good analysis on this particular decision and the overall aspect of television networks in general, which I found rather interesting.

Castle has been cancelled, which would be sad but due to the behind-the-scenes mess it's actually more of a relief. It's kind of awkwardly sad to admit, but you know, they dug their own graves by doing what they did. Though unfortunately, Sleepy Hollow didn't learn their lesson since it has been renewed for a fourth season. Just, the sheer audacity of them thinking that the show is worth anything without Abbie Mills, who was the main character and co-lead.

And apparently, CBS passed on the updated Nancy Drew series (with Sarah Shahi) because, guess what? It had too many women in it. Sexism at its finest, ladies and gentlemen.
 
 
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icecoldrain: Guardians of the Galaxy - I am Grooticecoldrain on May 15th, 2016 11:32 pm (UTC)
I was hoping that Agent Carter was going to get a third season, but I felt like it was likely not going to come back all season long. Sad, but I'm not surprised by the news.

I'm really excited that Supergirl has been renewed. I don't mind that it's changing networks, but I am interested in seeing how they work with the budget cuts after hearing what their season one budget was.

Ugh, I've been reading about why CBS passed on the Nancy Drew series all morning! -_-
Renée: Peggy Carter. Undercover.rogueslayer452 on May 15th, 2016 11:48 pm (UTC)
I know it was practically a miracle it had a second season, and while it did well with the loyal fan following it had, I don't know if the ratings were doing that well. And some people weren't impressed with the second season and wished it remained focusing on her organizing SHIELD and everything. So I'm definitely sad, but thankful that the show at least got the chance that it did and we got to see Peggy shine on the small screen.

I'm actually quite surprised at how expensive it was to produce the show to begin with, or at least how expensive it got as the series started gaining more popularity. I know that smaller budget doesn't always mean decline in quality (because good storytelling is good storytelling no matter what budget), but I'm more concerning about losing vital characters because of it.

Ugh, isn't it so infuriating? The fact that "men didn't like it" because it had "too many women" is the most pathetic excuse I've ever heard. Also, CBS had Supergirl which had not just a woman superhero but also focused a lot on women in general and it had plenty of feminist messages and themes and it became a massive hit. So, they really have no excuse other than being sexist pricks amount bypassing Nancy Drew.
(no subject) - icecoldrain on May 16th, 2016 12:11 am (UTC) (Expand)
sherrilina: Arthur/Morgana 3 (Merlin)sherrilina on May 15th, 2016 11:51 pm (UTC)
Eh I don't think the CW handles their shows any worse than other networks--if anything I would say it does a better job! And it is a lot more forgiving of lower ratings and allows for more genre than other networks.

I was super sad about Galavant, if really grew on my in season 2. And ugh I hadn't heard the news about Sleepy Hollow yet but that is very disappointing and annoying to hear, WTF?? I usually am bad at dropping shows but I think I may make an exception here. But yeah, once Castle fired Stana of course it should end.
Renée: Nikita. Femme Fatale.rogueslayer452 on May 16th, 2016 12:08 am (UTC)
That is true, and the link I shared above does explain how this move can actually be more beneficial than if it remained on CBS, since the CW pretty much renewed all of their programs earlier this year. I guess sometimes when they do that, though, it allows shows that have declined in quality (writing and direction-wise) to continue on when it should have stopped at some point, and I don't want that to happen with Supergirl. But if the showrunner/producers of the show are careful, they won't let that happen.

I stopped watching Sleepy Hollow early in the second season, and I'm thankful I did because hearing about how they continually sidelined and mistreated Abbie (the main freaking character) to the point where the actress wanted to leave due to such disrespect, I was officially done. The show held much promise in the beginning, but after the creator/showrunner and a good chunk of the writers left after the first season the show went downhill so fast, completely missing the point of why people loved and watched the show and why it was initially praised. They took all of that away. :/
(no subject) - sherrilina on May 16th, 2016 12:20 am (UTC) (Expand)
Ery-chan: Mood: Sassyerychan86 on May 15th, 2016 11:54 pm (UTC)
I'm actually glad Supergirl is going to move to the CW because: CROSSOVERS! I love crossovers and now Kara and Berry can meet again and have icecream \O/

But wow that analysis was very interesting! Thanks for sharing... :)
Renée: Arrow. Sara Lance.rogueslayer452 on May 16th, 2016 12:19 am (UTC)
I actually really do want to see Kara visiting Barry's universe, because they said it was a possibility and their interactions were so cute.

You're welcome!
 grace ∞ the best damn woman that I ever seen: → ouat | technicolor princessafastmachine on May 16th, 2016 12:08 am (UTC)
Oh lordy. Neither Galavant nor Agent Carter suprise me, but I agree with you for sure about wanting to see Peggy actually start SHIELD. I wanted to see more of the history of SHIELD than we got.

I'm just glad that Supergirl isn't dying! I really enjoyed it. It's too bad because I loved that it was a fun show on a big network, but I can see why they moved it. I did enjoy that linked bit though!

What HAS been happening with Castle? I used to watch, pretty religiously, actually, up until about the time Kate got shot. It just fell off my radar after that.
Renéerogueslayer452 on May 16th, 2016 01:16 am (UTC)
Yeah, I mean, even if it meant it were to be the last season I for sure wanted a third season to explore those beginnings to at least tie into the MCU.

That was one of the things I liked about it being on CBS, too. It was a big network with a superhero show that became hugely successful. But I understand the reason for the move, since the CW is more lenient when it comes to genre television and is where most of their DC superhero shows reside at the moment.

What HAS been happening with Castle? I used to watch, pretty religiously, actually, up until about the time Kate got shot. It just fell off my radar after that.

I have no idea what's happening within the show itself, because I stopped watching a long time ago. I know that Beckett and Castle got married, but that's about it really. Outside of the show and behind the scenes, however, it was announced that Stana wouldn't be coming back for what would've been the ninth and final season of the show (basically they fired her), and rumors that she and Nathan weren't getting along and how he was approached for negotiations before her, and how Beckett was somehow going to die in the finale, etc. Essentially, everything was a mess.
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Renée: Agents of Shield. Skye.rogueslayer452 on May 16th, 2016 10:15 am (UTC)
It's a combination of being a blessing and a curse, since it's true that the CW doesn't operate the way other networks do and cancel shows if they under-perform, ratings-wise, considering they recently renewed all of their shows no matter where they were on that scale, allowing certain shows to have their chance to shine which wouldn't be possible on bigger networks. However, the longer a show continues on the more likely it'll basically lose the audience. I mean, this is true for any show no matter what network, but I hope it doesn't happen with Supergirl and the people running the show are smart about the story they're telling and when the appropriate time to end it before the network milks them dry like some of their other programs.

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sentry mode activated: hawkeye | i'm going back to bedellipsisms on May 16th, 2016 02:00 am (UTC)
...what Sleepy Hollow was renewed? I was 10000% sure that it would be canceled!

What is wrong with people?! The ratings are going to be in the negatives next year!
Renée: BSG. Natalie is not pleased.rogueslayer452 on May 16th, 2016 10:38 am (UTC)
Seriously, considering that it barely got renewed for a third season, I would've thought the vocal fan outrage over what happened with Abbie Mills being killed off, you know, their main character, would have clued them in that the show needs to be canceled. There is no Ichabod without Abbie, there is no show without these two together.

It's stupid and insulting, really. I hope it crashes and burns and gets pulled due to nobody watching.
americana exotica: Peggyinterchanges on May 16th, 2016 02:20 am (UTC)
I'm hoping we'll maybe get some flashbacks in SHIELD about Peggy starting it? Since Hayley Atwell's still working for ABC, hopefully it wouldn't be too hard to have her film a few scenes here and there. Still, I'm so glad we got a second season, but I definitely would've wanted Agent Carter to go on for so much longer, it was so good.

But if they don't bring back Bobbi and get rid of Hive/Ward for next season, I may no longer watch SHIELD at all, it's been so boring lately (and I hate hate how they're teasing this upcoming death. I follow the Marvel channel on YouTube and they put up a video for each main character contemplating if they're going to die and it makes me so angry).

I still can't believe that after barely getting its s3 renewal that Fox renewed Sleepy Hollow for s4 after killing off Abbie. They're crazy.

That "too female" comment was ridiculous. All but one of the pilots CBS picked up star men. I guess that's why they got rid of Supergirl, can't have shows with female leads on their network >__>
Renée: Peggy Carter. Undercover.rogueslayer452 on May 16th, 2016 12:57 pm (UTC)
That would be pretty awesome if she appeared in flashbacks on Agents of Shield. They did so previously before her own show premiered, so they could do so again. I also liked that they mentioned Peggy's death on the show too, tying it into Civil War, so it's a possibility that they can do more flashbacks even if just to see how SHIELD itself was developed.

I really want Bobbi back, since she was part of the team and I loved her interactions with the characters. But I agree, Hive/Ward needs to go. I hate it whenever shows tease for a major death of a character, because they draw it out so much and it's such a predictable show move in general.

It's so surprising since FOX is notorious for canceling shows too quickly, and now they're suddenly deciding to keep a low-budget, lowly rated show? Especially after killing off a popular main character that fans have been rallying behind to get better representation and treatment? IDEK anymore....they basically turned the show into another White Male Show. They turned it into Supernatural, showcasing their racism and sexism. Just, no.

(I wished Tom Mison had quit the show too after Nicole's departure; they can hire a new Ichabod or whatever. Tom and Nicole had amazing chemistry, you cannot recreate that relationship and partnership that was vital from the show's beginnings.)

I just don't understand their logic since apparently the pilot for Nancy Drew did well with tested audiences, so wouldn't that mean it's a go? Who do they think shows are generally for? Who brings the ratings to their network? Oh that's right, the audience. I mean, Supergirl became a massive hit and rose in popularity for a reason, because the audience loves the show. Just, ugh.

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night_owl_9: Haruhi - rose petals float awaynight_owl_9 on May 16th, 2016 02:27 am (UTC)
Ugh. I'm gutted about Agent Carter being canceled. It really grew on me, and now it's gone.

Thank you for sharing that analysis. It's very concise and well thought out.
dandelion wineegelantier on May 16th, 2016 04:27 am (UTC)
poor sleepy hollow; it's such a pity it never got past the first seasons! such a beautiful, promise-filled show, imagine how much better it could become.

::cries::
Renéerogueslayer452 on May 16th, 2016 01:01 pm (UTC)
It was such a fun show, filled with tons of lore and a solid diverse cast which so much potential and promise. It's definitely too bad that it lasted only one season, I would've liked to have seen the direction it would have gone. Also, Ichabod/Abbie = OTP forever. ♥
goldenusagigoldenusagi on May 16th, 2016 05:05 am (UTC)
I was hoping they would get into more about Peggy developing SHIELD and everything in relation to that

I know. I really wanted to get into her and Howard starting SHIELD.

Supergirl has officially been renewed for a second season, however it'll be moving from CBS to the CW

I was surprised at how much I liked Supergirl, and how they really resisted falling into a stereotype character with Kat. So I'm kind of miffed about it moving networks, afraid it will become 'a CW show.'

Though unfortunately, Sleepy Hollow didn't learn their lesson since it has been renewed for a fourth season

Whaaaaaaat? Why? No. Just, no.
Renéerogueslayer452 on May 16th, 2016 01:26 pm (UTC)
I know. I really wanted to get into her and Howard starting SHIELD.

I'm hoping that there's a chance there are flashbacks to that in Agents of Shield, since she's guest-starred before in a brief flashback, and it would tie beautifully into that creation of which our beloved agents reside. I just wish that we had a third season to explore that, or had the second season do that.

I was surprised at how much I liked Supergirl, and how they really resisted falling into a stereotype character with Kat. So I'm kind of miffed about it moving networks, afraid it will become 'a CW show.'

Supergirl pleasantly surprised me in every way possible. I mean, I adored the pilot and instantly was all in, but the show really found its pacing and footing and it became so much more than I could have imagined. It has a strong cast, amazing women characters who are multifaceted and have relationships with each other (Kara and Alex with this sisterly relationship, Cat Grant being just amazing all around) and while it went into some dark areas and had some good emotional moments, it never delved into the grimdark that other shows do, especially with things in relation to DC comics. I also really enjoyed the crossover with The Flash, since Kara and Barry were the most adorable dorks ever.

Even though not all CW shows suffer from the network (Nikita and currently Jane the Virgin being the most notable ones in my mind), I do have this worry that it'll get caught in the network trap and follow the same formulaic format that is the default of all their programs. I understand the necessity of the move, and I do appreciate that the CW doesn't operate the same as other networks esp when it comes to genre television, but I am still wary nonetheless.

Whaaaaaaat? Why? No. Just, no.

My thoughts exactly. Who is gonna watch it, though? Since almost everyone who once loved and praised the show has left, especially now since they took away everything that once made the show great.
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Julie: Original ★ feminismragnarok_08 on May 16th, 2016 05:51 am (UTC)
I'm still upset that Agent Carter got cancelled - it was a such a great show.

It had too many women in it. Sexism at its finest, ladies and gentlemen.

Fucking damn it!!
Profiterole: Sense8 - Nomi and Amanita_profiterole_ on May 16th, 2016 12:50 pm (UTC)
I'm sad about Nancy Drew. I never knew the books, but I kept hearing about them in US shows (like Amanita in Sense8) and it was going to star Sarah Shahi, so I was definitely planning on checking it out.
Renéerogueslayer452 on May 16th, 2016 02:22 pm (UTC)
And Sarah Shahi was going to be the first non-white person to portray Nancy Drew, as well. I'm hoping that it can find another home for it, if not, it's just another wasted opportunity. :(
Naomifrelling_tralk on May 16th, 2016 03:04 pm (UTC)
Urgh I heard that about the Nancy Drew series, no wonder I don't watch any shows on their network!
Renée: Pretty Little Liars. Spencer Hastings.rogueslayer452 on May 17th, 2016 12:11 am (UTC)
It's so pathetically ridiculous, honestly.
💋: future's sorted outmaybe on May 16th, 2016 04:10 pm (UTC)
I was honestly shocked when I heard that Sleepy Hollow got renewed for a 4th season, I thought for sure after the outrage of killing of Abbie - they would just axe it. I will say tho, I feel bad for whoever they cast to take Abbie's place because that actor is bound to get so much hate before the show even returns.

CBS passed on the updated Nancy Drew series (with Sarah Shahi) because, guess what? It had too many women in it. Sexism at its finest, ladies and gentlemen.
What in the actual fuck? I saw the news about CBS passing on it but didn't read the articles - they actually listed that as a reason? I can't even. :/
Renée: Lost Girl. Bo. Succubus.rogueslayer452 on May 17th, 2016 12:17 am (UTC)
Apparently they are delusional in thinking that Sleepy Hollow is supposed to be featuring one protagonist, being a white male, than the mostly POC cast it originally had in the first season. And that's something that has really been pissing me off about this. They killed off and erased the majority of its diverse cast after the first season, placing their co-leading WOC actress on the sidelines, mistreating her to the point where she wanted off the show, killed off her character in the most disrespecting OOC way possible, and then they have the audacity to think that fans will continue watching? They are out of their damn minds.

What in the actual fuck? I saw the news about CBS passing on it but didn't read the articles - they actually listed that as a reason? I can't even. :/

Yep. And the ironic thing is that it did well with tested audiences, they liked it, but the men at the network felt so threatened by the presence of women that they just passed it on by disregarding the audience -- who the show is supposed to be for. Just, what kind of nonsensical bullshit is that?
dhampyresadhampyresa on May 16th, 2016 10:54 pm (UTC)
"It had too many women in it."

WHAT

I DON'T EVEN

I mean.

Uhm.

Granted I have never read a Nacy Drew book (/not from a country where they're a thing) but I still under the impression that they were heavily focused on female characters, so naturally an adaptation would follow that trend? IDK i'm confused.
Renée: Veronica. Marshmallow.rogueslayer452 on May 17th, 2016 01:27 am (UTC)
I'm confused too, like, don't they realize and understand that Nancy Drew is a woman character and it would involve, well, women? Perhaps they thought it would just be Nancy herself surrounded by a lot of men in the cast? Like, I don't know what they were expecting for something that was incredibly woman-driven to begin with. Needless to say, their reasoning for bypassing it is incredibly stupid.