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26 January 2018 @ 06:01 pm
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++ With the news about the possibility of a Black Widow movie (which I'll believe it when I see it, since Marvel has constantly flip-flopped on this for years now), I've been thinking about other ways that her story could be told. Instead of a film, I would much prefer a television series based on a young Natasha and her training in the Black Widow program. Her backstory is fascinating in itself, and I think a show would be more suitable for focusing and exploring those elements of her story than a feature film. Then again, I've always believed that certain stories are much better fitted for television anyway since film can be quite limiting. Plus, it would give us a chance to see someone else take on the character of Natasha Romanova, especially a young Natasha.

++ Agents of SHIELD is considered to be the highest top-rated Marvel show on Rotten Tomatoes to date, followed closely by Luke Cage and Jessica Jones. Seeing it has five seasons so far and has continued to just get better and stronger as it goes on, that very impressive. Well-deserved, imho.

++ There is going to be a new Freeform show called Siren that I am intrigued by. I am fascinated with mermaids along with other mythological creatures, and anything that explores the darker side of mermaid lore is something right up my alley. In general, I like things that challenge the way society and mainstream media has altered to be innocent when in actuality they are darker and much more frightening, particularly if it includes body horror. Mermaids, angels, fairies, most fairytale stories, etc. Granted, I know this series will most likely not be the thriller that I probably want it to be, but I'm intrigued by the concept nonetheless.

++ I had just heard about the whole Heathers television show remake, and now Charmed is officially getting a reboot on the CW, both which are completely unnecessary. Look, this has obviously been mentioned before plenty of times by myself and others, but to reiterate: I'm just so tired of all these reboots/remakes/revivals. True, some of them can be rather decent and even prove themselves to work really well, but those are really rare and let's be honest most of the time all these remakes/revivals are nothing more than just unimaginative money-grabbers that add nothing new. Every single time I hear news about a previous show possibly getting a revival or a reboot made, I inwardly cringe. Not everything needs to be revived, not everything needs to have a remake. Just because it is the current trend right now doesn't mean everyone needs to follow it.
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what doesn't kill me better runcarlyinrome on January 27th, 2018 03:44 am (UTC)

Oh man, I hadn't seen the trailer for Siren, but I am so into it now.

Renéerogueslayer452 on January 27th, 2018 05:43 am (UTC)
It's funny because I always heard the preview for it on TV in the background but never saw the trailer for it proper until just recently. lol But I'm so intrigued by the concept of the show, if nothing else than to give a look into the darker side of mermaid lore. :D
goldenusagigoldenusagi on January 27th, 2018 03:56 am (UTC)
I know there's nothing new under the sun, but I am also sick of all the remakes. Like, how about a NEW magical show, instead of redoing one from before?

I am super excited for Siren, though! I love mermaid lore.
Renée: BSG. Natalie is not pleased.rogueslayer452 on January 27th, 2018 04:28 am (UTC)
For real. Like, perhaps riding the wave (and make bank off) of nostalgia is the safer route to go, but even that can backfire in your face hard if it fails. And most of them often do. So why not take the risk of creating something new and interesting? Something unique? There are plenty of original ideas being thrown out there that can seriously be amazing. Remakes only work if they have the right formula, and most of the time they don't have that formula because apparently lazy writing and making a quick buck is better than telling a good story.

Also, why do they always want to remake something that was already successful? Why not take something that didn't do well and try to better it? Wouldn't take make much more sense?

Siren looks very interesting because anything dealing with mythological creature lore is my jam.
Mariashyngi on January 27th, 2018 08:56 am (UTC)
I'm so excited about the Black Widow movie! TV series would be very nice but is the ebough material for it? Like yes you can make a show about her childhood and fans will be happy. But in the end, is that enough for a tv series for it to be interesting and not repetitive? Okay maybe like less that 10 episodes long mini series would be nice. More material than a movie but not too little for full tv series?

Charmed gets a remoot? WHY? I used to watch it when I was younger but I have never watched it from start to finish. And for few years I'm been hoping it would come to Netflix of something...
Renée: Agents of Shield. Skye.rogueslayer452 on January 27th, 2018 09:23 am (UTC)
I think there would be enough material, absolutely. If nothing else, a limited series would be even better, because it would be self-contained and know when it would end but still allow for more exploration of the character that we wouldn't otherwise see in films.

Charmed gets a reboot? WHY?

Cashing in on the remake bandwagon, it would seem. Some of the original cast isn't pleased by this, and neither are the fans, based on some of the reactions I've been seeing.

I stopped watching Charmed after Prue was no longer there, but I was obsessed with it during those earlier seasons. I haven't watched the entire show but I do have fond memories of when I was watching it. I've heard that the show wasn't exactly that great in the later seasons though, and I've definitely heard about the BTS drama that happened during that time too. But regardless of all of that, this is one of those shows that it is well-known enough to leave alone. Like, why is it necessary to completely retool the show and basically have it be in name only? What is the point?
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sometimes, red riding hood will eat the wolf.: a violent noisewretched on January 27th, 2018 03:44 pm (UTC)
I usually go through all the trailers on Youtube to see what I might be interested in watching and man I cringed so hard sitting through the one for Heathers. I mean sure some of it might be funny, but Heathers is like...sacred. It shouldn't be messed with, and they can't recreate that. Whether they got Shannen Doherty to be in it or not.

edit: I can't even fathom Charmed. Just, so much NO. Even Holly Marie Combs is against it.

Edited at 2018-01-27 03:45 pm (UTC)
Renée: Elementary. Joan Watson.rogueslayer452 on January 27th, 2018 09:34 pm (UTC)
I mean sure some of it might be funny, but Heathers is like...sacred. It shouldn't be messed with, and they can't recreate that.

Exactly. And the thing is, we've already had people attempt to try to match what Heathers brought us originally, because that movie is so iconic and many creators were either inspired by or wanted to pay homage to that with their own creation, which is fine. But you cannot recreate the original. It is impossible. Heathers is unique by itself that any attempt at trying to remake it will end in disaster, and from the looks of it (and the sounds based on comments from the showrunner) this will take a nosedive into being an embarrassing mess.

I can't even fathom Charmed. Just, so much NO. Even Holly Marie Combs is against it.

Seriously. I'm glad she's been upfront about her disappointing and voicing her displeasure.
stolenglimpse: AI8 - Adam Lambert profile hotstolenglimpse on January 27th, 2018 04:12 pm (UTC)
At first Sirens didn't ring a bell and then I went on Youtube to find a trailer. I remember having seen a very small preview of it a while back. On the Internet because I don't have CW and I barely ever watch TV anymore but I am on Youtube daily and stumbled upon it one day.

It looks interesting. Might be a letdown though, we never know.

Charmed is one of those shows that should remain untouched. Like Buffy.

I heard they will do another Sabrina the Teenage Witch à la Buffy, and this came from Melissa Joan Hart directly. I don't know what I feel about it either. I liked the campyness of the original.

With the amount of remakes and such in both TV AND movies, you'd think Hollywood's originality went down the drain or something. That and the endless sequels lately... Or pulling out one character and making a whole entire movie/show about him/her...
Renée: Haven. Audrey Parker.rogueslayer452 on January 27th, 2018 10:04 pm (UTC)
It looks interesting. Might be a letdown though, we never know.

Yeah, I think it's going to turn into another one of those melodramatic teen dramas, which is fine if that is the demographic they're going for, but I really want some kind of fantasy thriller of mermaids getting back at humans for mistreating them or misrepresenting them, etc. The trailer implied that at least some of the story will probably be about that, though idk about the rest. Still, it looks interesting to at least check out.

Charmed is one of those shows that should remain untouched. Like Buffy.

Remember when they attempted to do a reboot of Buffy in 2010 or something? Thankfully, it never happened because the script was really bad so they scrapped it entirely, but that whole ordeal was a mess. It was Buffy just without anything resembling BTVS at all, none of the universe or lore or anything, which is ridiculous. The same thing is happening with Charmed in that it's just in-name-only. All of this is what I call lazy. If you want to do a show about sisters being witches, make an original show instead of trying to bank off of what was already successful.

I heard they will do another Sabrina the Teenage Witch à la Buffy, and this came from Melissa Joan Hart directly. I don't know what I feel about it either. I liked the campyness of the original.

This one is a bit different because Sabrina Spellman is a comic book character from Archie Comics. Sabrina the Teenage Witch with Melissa Joan Hart was based off of the character from the comics but not a direct adaptation. This new show is going to be focusing on being an adaptation of The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina. So, this isn't necessarily a remake of MJH's Sabrina but just another adaptation of the comic book character, which I'm completely fine with and I'm looking forward to seeing what they do with it.

With the amount of remakes and such in both TV AND movies, you'd think Hollywood's originality went down the drain or something.

That's what's been said for decades now. Remakes, reboots, revivals, endless sequels and franchises, there's been both a fatigue and a demand for them on and off for years. Hollywood and mainstream media are stuck in this neverending cycle of remaining in nostalgia because that is the safest space to be to rack in that cash. They would rather do that than risk something new. And the sad thing is? So many people buy into it. Revivals are the newest thing in television because so many people get manipulated by the nostalgia of seeing characters again.
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Ery-chanerychan86 on January 27th, 2018 05:28 pm (UTC)
I'm just so tired of all these reboots/remakes/revivals
I agree 100 % on this! I am so over it!

I started watching This Is Us recently and it felt so good to have a show with no baggage! (Also a VERY good show IMHO)

SHIELD deserves all the hype it can get! This season is one of the best ones so far! I absolutely LOVE it!
Renée: Agents of Shield. Skye.rogueslayer452 on January 27th, 2018 11:08 pm (UTC)
That's how I am with Brooklyn Nine-Nine, it's so nice to have a show that is genuinely hilarious and has no baggage that I can just simply enjoy and have no worries for. It's refreshing.

This season of Agents of SHIELD is so different from their previous seasons, and that's a good thing because it's been amazing so far I can't wait to see where it goes from here.

Edited at 2018-01-27 11:08 pm (UTC)
Profiterole_profiterole_ on January 27th, 2018 05:50 pm (UTC)
Yes, there's Black Widow, and there's also Red Sparrow (whose creators don't see the link with Black Widow... lol).

I've seen most of Charmed, except for the final season, and I can't say I'm interested in a reboot.
Renéerogueslayer452 on January 27th, 2018 11:36 pm (UTC)
It's really hilarious how they can't see the similarities between the two, or why people are making that comparison. Like, you really have to be so clueless and blind to not make that connection.

I've seen most of Charmed, except for the final season, and I can't say I'm interested in a reboot.

I've never seen the show fully (I stopped after Prue was gone) but I was fond of the earlier seasons, since it was part of my WB show lineup during that time. I've seen many mixed reactions to this reboot, many being very negative. Holly Marie Combs has been quite vocal lately about her displeasure about the decision to completely retool the show. I find it completely unnecessary. Want a show about witches who are sisters? Do something new and original, don't do a in-name-only reboot and hope that fans of the original will be part of the audience to get more numbers.
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amy: SHIELD: Agent Mayamyofaquitaine on January 28th, 2018 04:05 am (UTC)
I love love LOVE this season of Agents of SHIELD. I hope it gets renewed. It keeps getting better every year.

Oooh, I hadn't heard of that Sirens show but it looks promising. I'll give it a try.

I watch the Paramount Network a lot and they've been showing soooo many previews and BTS featurettes on the Heathers reboot and it looks so bad I want to cry. And ITA the reboots are getting out of hand. Seems like a new one is announced every week.
Renée: Skye. Transformation.rogueslayer452 on January 28th, 2018 05:57 am (UTC)
I hope it gets renewed, as well. I was worried because of the later season premiere date and the change in airing days, but it seems to be doing well regardless of that, so I hope it does get renewed for another season. It's just been doing so well, and the show continues in quality with each season.

I'm honestly baffled at the notion of them remaking Heathers and setting it in 2018. It makes no sense, and just judging from the trailer it's so cringe-worthy. It's like they're trying too hard to appeal to the younger generation by being ~edgy and ~risque when instead it just too embarrassing. There are just certain things you cannot recreate and shouldn't even try to emulate, ever, and this is one of them. It's one thing to pay homage to the original film by doing something else, as many have over the years, but to remake it entirely? So unnecessary. Plus, I don't think the showrunner understands what the original movie was about, if they even watched it at all.
haebin: sharkhaebin on January 28th, 2018 12:16 pm (UTC)
Hm ... Siren sounds intriguing. I hope it will be great. In this case, I would love to see it. :))
Renéerogueslayer452 on January 28th, 2018 08:01 pm (UTC)
The trailer in itself is interesting enough to entice me to check out the pilot, at least.
Chelsea: Winter → Cabinsictransits on January 28th, 2018 06:05 pm (UTC)
I would love a Black Widow movie!

Not sure how I feel about the Charmed reboot. I agree, I don't think it's necessary. I'd certainly check out the pilot at least but I don't think it would top the original for me.
Renéerogueslayer452 on January 28th, 2018 07:29 pm (UTC)
It would certainly have taken them long enough to actually have a Black Widow movie in production, after so many years of people demanding it ever since the first Avengers movie. But like I said, I'm not holding my breath.

At the description of the reboot, it has absolutely no connection to the original show, so what is the point? Why not make a separate original fantasy series about sisters who are witches without trying to do a in-name-only of a show that is already well-known? It makes no sense. Reboots and remakes in general need to cease being a huge thing, especially when they attempt to bank on the success and popularity of something else, because I view that as completely lazy, imho.
Driver Picks the Musicbatmarg on January 28th, 2018 07:11 pm (UTC)
I'm with you. I'll believe it when I see it.

Hadn't heard about Siren, but I haven't dropped the channel pack w/ freeform yet (honestly I probably won't until my 2 year rate lock-in is over), so I may have to give that a look
Renéerogueslayer452 on January 28th, 2018 07:37 pm (UTC)
Siren wouldn't have been on my radar of shows to check out if it hadn't seen the trailer online, and it definitely looks interesting. I don't know if the tone of the trailer is going to match the tone of the show, because I would prefer this to be a fantasy thriller, but I do think it's worth checking out, at least.
an idea is bulletproof: Heathers mean girlselizalavelle on January 29th, 2018 01:01 am (UTC)
I feel like Marvel got scooped on their Black Widow movie by Red Sparrow. I hope they still make one but I think they went back on it so many times that someone else just picked up the idea and ran with it.

Good dark mermaid story: The Rolling Deep and Into the Drowning Deep by Mira Grant. Mermaids are awesome and dark stories are just fantastic. I've also heard the movie The Lure is great but haven't watched it just yet.

With you on the remakes. Some really do rock but there are a lot of flops in there. I love seeing new shows get created and seeing fresh new ideas. I'm sure most of the younger audience for Heathers won't even really know the film so I'm not sure who they're trying to appeal to with the reboot.
Renée: Pretty Little Liars. Secrets.rogueslayer452 on January 29th, 2018 03:53 am (UTC)
It just sucks that they waited so long, since there's been a high demand for it ever since the first Avengers film. They kept making vague statements about it maybe happening, but nothing ever came out of it, which is why I'm skeptical about their recent announcement that it'll happen because we've done this song and dance before. Though perhaps with the success of Wonder Woman they feel like they have to do it now. I mean, I'm looking forward to seeing Captain Marvel but Black Widow should've been a no-brainer years ago.

And I find it truly hilarious that the director of Red Sparrow doesn't see the connection people are making between that and Black Widow. It's like, really? lol

Oh, I'll have to check those out.

Yeah, I'm not entirely certain what they think they're going to accomplish with this remake television series. The younger demographic they're targeting probably hasn't even seen the original Heathers and won't be as interested in it, and those who have probably will be insulted by how cringey and embarrassing it'll be in comparison. It just makes no sense, especially by remaking it into a show set in 2018. No, just no. Plus, there's been a lot of television and movies made since where they were clearly influenced by Heathers, but were their own identity. Mean Girls, for example, was this for many young people. So why bother trying to remake something so iconic to begin with? So unnecessary.
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giallarhorn: Jack mehgiallarhorn on January 29th, 2018 03:34 am (UTC)
I'll believe a Black Widow anything when I actually see it in front of me. At least we're getting Captain Marvel?

Like, I get the remake/reboot initiative. Sure, okay, whatever. But it's kind of the same problem that we're having with the superhero saturation- we're hitting remake saturation? Or if you do a reboot, do something new with it, a la Ocean's 8.

Esp a show like Charmed. It was already a gem enough, albeit it got weird towards the end.
Renée: Jessica Jones.rogueslayer452 on January 29th, 2018 04:49 am (UTC)
Yeah, they've gone back and forth so many times on committing to anything surrounding Black Widow, so I'm not holding my breath. I'm looking forward to Captain Marvel, though, but Marvel in general really needs to step up their game and get more woman-fronted movies among their lineup.

I feel like we've had a remake saturation for a long time now, it just comes in different waves. I remember from the early to mid-00s Hollywood was having this trend of doing American remakes of foreign movies (particularly Asian horror), and now it's just remaking anything and everything that was popular. But it's not just remakes, it's the whole nostalgia wave. Remakes, reboots, revivals, all the endless sequels and neverending franchises. It moderation this wouldn't be so much of an issue, but since it has become such a big trend over recent years for both movies and television people are just becoming so sick and tired of seeing it everywhere constantly that it's honestly just general fatigue of it at this point.
Nathaniel Wolfthorn: marvelganimede on January 30th, 2018 07:23 pm (UTC)
I've really enjoyed Agents of SHIELD so far and I'm very much looking forward to the new series - it's not available in the UK until late Feb/early March, so I've been trying to avoid spoilers and stuff! I think each series seems to get better and they're always trying new things and different situations. Plus it's quite a diverse group for a Marvel cast. And yet it seems to get so much hate! I really don't understand it.
Renée: Agents of Shield. Skye.rogueslayer452 on January 30th, 2018 08:54 pm (UTC)
I don't feel like it's hated as some claim, especially judging from how well-received the show has become over the years, though I do think it is greatly underappreciated.

I really love how it manages to get better and stronger with each season, trying different things, this season especially since it is completely different from anything they've done before. Even while they still are in the agreement to coincide with upcoming Marvel movies, they're able to make it work. It's impressive.
Kimsaturnsdaughter on January 30th, 2018 09:33 pm (UTC)

I agree that Black Widow's backstory would make for an excellent TV show. At this stage in the MCU, I can't see where a movie centering her would fit. I guess we'll have a better idea once Infinity Wars plays out.
I got distracted away from AoS during season four, but I want to go back to it soon. I keep hearing things and kicking myself for falling behind.

Renée: Skye. Transformation.rogueslayer452 on January 31st, 2018 01:51 am (UTC)
Yeah, and it makes me think that they should've jumped at the opportunity when people were demanding for a Black Widow movie after the first Avengers, because IA at where the MCU is now I'm not entirely certain how her movie is going to work, unless it'll be some kind of prequel set somewhere in between some of the other films or something.

Oh, definitely get back into soon! It's been so amazing. :D