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09 May 2018 @ 01:29 pm
When it's spring and you just want it to be fall already...  
++ Céline Dion has a new song, "Ashes", which is a promotion for Deadpool 2 and the music video itself is absolutely delightful. It is both beautiful (with Celine herself singing) and hilarious (Deadpool dancing around dramatically, plus that ending), and I love how it's kind of a parody of the music videos commonly done for movies back in the 90s and early 00s. Very appropriately done for the sequel for Deadpool, because obviously, why not? lol

++ The official trailer for the second season of Luke Cage looks super dope, I'm here for it.

++ Richard Armitage has given us another short look into him voicing Logan in the Wolverine: The Long Night podcast serial. It's just another little bit of him discussing the character, but I love the footage accompanied with it too since it shows how interactive the recording process was which will no doubt provide much to the performances by the actors, which with every small snippet of these interviews we see bits and pieces of just what the recording sessions were like. Just a reminder that the podcast is available now only exclusively on Stitcher Preminum, and it will be released for a wider release on multiple platforms later this year in November.

++ Bryan Fuller has left The Vampire Chronicles television adaptation.

Honestly, I'm not entirely surprised. While I have no doubt that his vision would've been interesting to see, him being partnered with Anne Rice was rather strange to begin with considering they are total polar opposites of each other when it comes to their views of fandom, fanwork, and transformative works as a whole. Anyone who is aware of Rice's notoriously extensive history will understand how much of a controversial figure she is among fandom in general. So even in a professional work environment it's just not something that I can see working out well in the long run, imho. So I can't really say I'm disappointed that he's no longer attached to this. And I know that some are going to immediately scoff about go, "there he goes again abandoning projects" (which I personally think is a bit unfair since he's only left, like, a few things for different reasons, however since some of it happened very recently in a short amount of time it's unfortunately what he's now known for in some circles), but I definitely think there is more to the story than we know, and a lot probably had to do with the clashing of their personalities and conflict surrounding creative differences over adapting TVC for modern audiences.

I know that Bryan has been attempting to continue with finding a way of getting a fourth season for Hannibal and it's been reported multiple times that he's up for a Pushing Daisies reunion (in the world of constant revivals and reboots these days, it's not entirely improbable for either of these to work given the right opportunity). Although I selfishly still want him to go back to American Gods, like if anything that is something that I'm very bitter and disappointed he's no longer involved with.
 
 
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Profiterole_profiterole_ on May 9th, 2018 08:59 pm (UTC)
You make good points about Bryan Fuller, but it was still my first thought not to be surprised. XD
Renéerogueslayer452 on May 10th, 2018 04:52 am (UTC)
I just wanna know what happened, because him joining the show was announced back in January, but according to these recent reports he ended up leaving the project in February, and we're only hearing about it now as a throwaway comment months later. So, something drastic must've happened for him to change his mind like that, especially since he apparently had been wanting to adapt these books since he was a teenager.
R.nemophilist on May 9th, 2018 09:02 pm (UTC)

I love Bryan but at this point I expect him to leave shows or come up with great ideas that get cancelled :(

Renéerogueslayer452 on May 9th, 2018 09:13 pm (UTC)
He's just been quite unlucky, and it makes me sad. He's a brilliant storyteller with some amazing ideas and I love everything he's done, but either things don't work out (he leaves for whatever reason or the shows don't get picked up) or his shows end up getting prematurely cancelled. :(
Daniela: blossomeiffels on May 10th, 2018 08:31 am (UTC)
Celine is such a queen! I love so much how she sang the Deadpool theme.
Renée: Kaylee. Giddy.rogueslayer452 on May 10th, 2018 09:04 am (UTC)
I honestly wasn't expecting it, and yet it makes perfect sense, y'know? Of course they would get Céline do to an epic power ballad for Deadpool 2! It's so great.
Nina: <hex> good timeshoneymink on May 10th, 2018 03:36 pm (UTC)
I mean Anne Rice and Bryan Fuller is a really odd combination. I'm not entirely sure who could work with Anne Rice to be honest and I'm sure I don't even know half of it, the only stuff I know is that she is adamantly against fanfiction and has argued with people on amazon (?) who gave her books bad reviews if memory serves.
Renée: Pretty Little Liars. Spencer Hastings.rogueslayer452 on May 10th, 2018 05:13 pm (UTC)
I'm sure I don't even know half of it, the only stuff I know is that she is adamantly against fanfiction and has argued with people on amazon (?) who gave her books bad reviews if memory serves.

And that's barely scratching the surface, because it's not that she was just against fanfiction, oh no, she literally took an active role in threatening fans with lawsuits if they ever wrote fanfiction of her work. She went on a rampage of finding, harassing, and legitimately banning any kind of fanwork made of her books ever. There are plenty of authors out there who have been vocal about their dislike for fanfiction, which can be disheartening but it is well within their rights to have that view. But Anne Rice went above and beyond to the point of actually threatening fans, which shook the entire fandom and forced fanfic authors to go into hiding for a time, it was that bad. She has since claimed that she's "softened" her opinion overtime, but she did such irreparable damage to fandom as a whole over the years that it's impossible to believe anything she says.

As for the whole Amazon review thing, that was so ridiculous that you kind of have to read what happened to believe it. I mean, the review that sparked her meltdown apparently wasn't even that negative, it just had a different take on the story than how she originally intended, which she apparently viewed as being an "attack" against her. Then again, she is also known for not taking criticism very well, as evident from her anti-negative review warpath that's gone on for years.

Which is why it's so confusing on why she's even bothering wanting to make a television series in the first place, especially now. Television critics are just as harsh as book critics, if not harsher. And finding someone to actually work within her parameters is going to be difficult, because television is a completely different medium that she has no experience with whatsoever. So, I don't get it. It'll actually be a miracle if this even gets picked up to series, tbh.

Edited at 2018-05-10 06:06 pm (UTC)
Nina: <bananarama> wowhoneymink on May 10th, 2018 06:15 pm (UTC)
Thank you for the links. Yes, I remember reading this whole discussion where fans argued with Diana Gabaldon if I'm not mistaken in defence of fanfiction. Anne Rice is something else though, especially that part with the review, I don't get it. I've worked very hard too -- my papers still go through peer review where they are picked apart, sometimes it makes them better, sometimes it's a nuisance. I think that's just rule 101: You put something out there, you expose yourself to criticism. If you cannot live with that then, oh well, lock yourself up at home.

Like you I was very surprised about the development of a TV show. Especially if Anne Rice is going to be involved herself and this is not going to be like 'Shadowhunters' or 'The Magicians' where the whole thing is basically just based on the novels of Clare and Grossman respectively but apart from the characters and some story lines is greatly deviating from it. That's why I had such a hard time picturing Bryan Fuller being attached to this project as I couldn't imagine him letting Anne Rice micro-manage the whole thing, which for some reason I think she would do, despite -- and I could be wrong of course -- not knowing that writing a 45-60min episode TV script is really different from writing a novel.

Edited at 2018-05-10 06:16 pm (UTC)
Renée: Elementary. Joan Watson.rogueslayer452 on May 10th, 2018 09:31 pm (UTC)
I think that's just rule 101: You put something out there, you expose yourself to criticism. If you cannot live with that then, oh well, lock yourself up at home.

Exactly. Unfortunately, there are many authors (and other creators) out there who get defensive whenever someone critiques their work or doesn't give them automatic praise. And while it's fine to feel disappointed and hurt because hey, we're all human, you still have to act professional and understand that not everyone is going to like what you put out there. And in the industry, if you don't have thicker skin to deal with that, then perhaps this isn't the kind of career for you.

It just reminds me of the authors who get super offended by negative reviews that they will literally track down and stalk the reviewer to confront them. Like, who in their right mind thinks that's okay?

That's why I had such a hard time picturing Bryan Fuller being attached to this project as I couldn't imagine him letting Anne Rice micro-manage the whole thing, which for some reason I think she would do

I think that might've been part of the reason. I'm purely speculating here since we have nothing else to go on, but Fuller was announced to have been involved in January, and reports are saying that he departed from the project in February. So something must've happened in between that short time for him to change his mind on being attached to the show (which is only in the script stage, they have no cast or anything yet). Based on her antics, both past and present, it wouldn't surprise me if they did indeed clash on how to write a script fitted for television, which is an entirely different beast from writing books, and wanting to micromanage everything, which is not really a good environment to be in. So if that was indeed the case, Bryan getting out early was a good move.

Edited at 2018-05-10 09:32 pm (UTC)
katiereys on May 10th, 2018 04:07 pm (UTC)
Ah I'm sooooooo hyped for Deadpool! I'm really hoping it's going to be funny and not like OVERDONE funny where it banks way too much on redundant jokes. I loved GOTG 2 but did feel like some of the jokes went on a littttttttttle too long and they did that purposely because they know the humor went over so well in the first one. Haven't yet seen this music video but I am preparing myself for glory hahaha
Renée: Kahlan. Facepalm.rogueslayer452 on May 10th, 2018 05:21 pm (UTC)
I mean, if the humor is anything like the promotional material we've been getting then we have nothing to worry about. ;)
katiereys on May 10th, 2018 05:53 pm (UTC)
AHHAHAHAHA dying
Ery-chan: pic#105558586erychan86 on May 10th, 2018 07:04 pm (UTC)
Love the DP2 music video!!!! Ahahaha ! Damn you Celine... you are more than an 11!!! What a voice!!!
Renéerogueslayer452 on May 10th, 2018 08:44 pm (UTC)
It's such a brilliant marketing strategy, getting someone as iconic as Céline to do an epic power ballad on stage while having Deadpool dance around dramatically in the background (and in heels), too. Everything Deadpool does for its promotional advertisements is top-notch, and this was absolute gold.
Galadriel.: ASOIAF ✽ Margaery Tyrellsixphanel on May 10th, 2018 07:24 pm (UTC)
Deadpool has the best advertising ever, it's so clever and oh so random!

I wish Brian Fuller would find a way to bring Pushing Daisies back. It's still one of the cancellations that hurt the most...
Renée: Daenerys. Not a queen; a khaleesi.rogueslayer452 on May 10th, 2018 08:42 pm (UTC)
The marketing team is always A+ when it comes to the advertising of Deadpool. It's so brilliant and it makes you want to see the movie even more because it's just so random, and yet oh so very Deadpool at the same time. ;D

It really saddens me that two of his best shows, Pushing Daisies and Hannibal, that got a lot of critical acclaim and so much praise, ended up getting cancelled before their time. I do hope he's able to revived both of them in some way.
goldenusagigoldenusagi on May 11th, 2018 05:51 pm (UTC)
The Deadpool trailer was AMAZING.

Re: Fuller and the Vampire Chronicles. That didn't last long. Granted, I never thought it was going to, just because of Fuller and Rice's ways of operating. I'm curious how Rice herself is going to manage a TV show, given how she can't take criticism or fandom. Though I'm kind of disappointed about Fuller, given that this would have been full circle for him in a way, since Anne Rice was an author he contacted when he was a teenager, asking how to break into writing.

Ugh, I don't want to say anything negative about Bryan Fuller, because I love him, but it does seem to becoming a weird pattern at this point. Not the things getting cancelled--that's not his fault, but the detaching himself from shows. And maybe everyone else on the other side is completely unreasonable, who knows, but it seems to be happening quite a lot. I'm still bitter he left American Gods, because that also resulted in Gillian Anderson not coming back.
Renéerogueslayer452 on May 11th, 2018 06:23 pm (UTC)
I'm curious how Rice herself is going to manage a TV show, given how she can't take criticism or fandom.

I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up in development hell or doesn't even get picked up to series.

And maybe everyone else on the other side is completely unreasonable, who knows, but it seems to be happening quite a lot.

I feel it only seems that way because these announcements of him joining on then leaving shortly thereafter are happening so close together in a short period of time, when in reality it's only been a few projects. But I understand the worry and frustration about this possibly becoming a pattern.

It's one of those things where we don't know the whole story, we're merely just outsiders looking in with the limited information we got so we're left with making speculations and assumptions about the situation. I've seen people get exasperated with Fuller now and calling him a "flake" because of these recent incidents of abandoning projects, which is kinda unfair but tbh makes sense when that's all we hear. The nature of the business is fickle and we don't know what happens behind closed doors, sometimes things just don't work out for whatever reason, and in this case I do want to know what transpired to make him do a complete 180 so quickly from being involved with TVC. I know it probably had something to do with Anne Rice herself, knowing her antics it wouldn't surprise me if she scared him away from doing something that he's been wanting to do since he was a teenager. But again, this is me just speculating because we don't know enough.

I think the only project I'm bitter about is American Gods, because I feel like he could have at least negotiated and compromised on that a bit more, especially if the main issue was the budget. And it's not like he's above compromising either, considering the things he had to do with Hannibal and all that. So, idk.

Edited at 2018-05-11 06:24 pm (UTC)
goldenusagigoldenusagi on May 18th, 2018 03:55 am (UTC)
I'm just worried that the rest of American Gods isn't going to feel anything like the first season, and could even lead to it not being renewed later. And yeah, if it was just budgeting, couldn't he have found a way to work around it? I don't think most actors/directors/writers/producers get everything they want all the time, unless they're one of the powerhouses. Other projects, like Dead Like Me, I know the network wanted to change story lines or characters, where it was major creative differences. I can't imagine the network wanting to change much of Neil's work, direction wise, given that that's the main selling point.
Naomi: Hannibal blood smearfrelling_tralk on May 13th, 2018 12:49 pm (UTC)
I agree, in this particular case I feel like people are being a bit harsh in Bryan Fuller, although I can understand where the jokes and eyerolls are coming from when he has left so many shows. (Even Hannibal arguably as I later read that Amazon Prime were initially interested, and only passed because he wanted to take a years break from it in order to develop American Gods, so he definitely does seem to have a tendency to drop his commitment to shows when something new and shiny comes along).

Still I can understand in this case why he might have decided to leave The Vampire Chronicles, I can well imagine Anne Rice being a nightmare to work with. She’s very possessive over Lestat, so I can see her being very rigid and refusing to compromise whenever Bryan Fuller suggests changes need to be made when adapting for television
Renéerogueslayer452 on May 19th, 2018 03:47 am (UTC)
I love Bryan Fuller and his work, he's created some beautiful and memorable stories, though I do want to sit him down and inquire about some of the decisions he makes at times.

But most of the time some of those decisions can be beyond his control, and in this case I definitely don't blame him for leaving this project especially of what we know of Anne Rice as a person and how particular she is with her characters and how they're portrayed. And since she doesn't know how to make television I can imagine being super controlling and demanding even though she doesn't know what she's talking about. I wouldn't want to be in that kind of working environment either, tbh.
~*Suzy Q*~blakmagjick on May 14th, 2018 10:22 pm (UTC)
I almost didn't watch the Celine Dion video...cause I'm not a fan of hers...but then I saw enough people post it that I figured it would be worth the time...and it was...haha

I would LOVE more Pushing Daisies...but I doubt it would ever happen.
Renéerogueslayer452 on May 15th, 2018 12:35 am (UTC)
I would LOVE more Pushing Daisies...but I doubt it would ever happen.

You never know. Revivals are a thing nowadays so anything is possible. Though I feel like a Hannibal revival might be more likely than Pushing Daisies.