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12 May 2018 @ 01:11 am
And by some miracle...  
NBC saves/picks up Brooklyn Nine-Nine for a sixth season! (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ*:・゚✧

I'm honestly still reeling from everything that's happened, to be honest. It has been quite a rollarcoaster of emotions during the last 48 hours, from the announcement of FOX cancelling B99 to hearing about all the fan campaigning and overwhelming response about the news, to the possibility of other networks wanting to renew it only to find out that they all passed on the opportunity, therefore our hopes being dashed, and then, lo and behold, NBC being our savior and reviving the B99 for another season. It makes sense, though, considering that all of Mike Schur's other shows are on NBC (Parks and Recreation and The Good Place), so it's the perfect fit tbh. It'll be getting a 13-episode order, and no matter whether it'll be considered the last season or not, I'm just thankful that it got picked up.

Granted, there's been a lot of emotions lately as the announcements of which shows are renewed and which are cancelled, because it is that time of year again and it's never a fun time, and unfortunately Friday was a bloodbath of shows being cancelled left and right.

All of this has brought up the never-ending rants/discussions/debates once again about how antiquated the Nielsen rating system is and how television needs to change the way it perceives the viewership of their audience, especially in terms of adapting to how technology has changed and needing to take into account viewership in other countries (including making streaming easily accessible and available for them that isn't just US-based, which is a huge part of the problem). It's a broken outdated system that traditional media needs to get rid of and find a better, more efficient way of calculating the numbers and views for shows from all platforms worldwide.
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author_by_night: Pawnee sign by nuv0le_rapideauthor_by_night on May 12th, 2018 11:01 am (UTC)
Whew! I always wondered why it wasn't on NBC in the first place. I realize Michael Schur isn't forever bound to NBC, of course, but all of his shows have been there, and it just feels like a very NBC show.

Yeah, the Nielsen Ratings applied when everyone watched TV the same way. (And honestly, I'm sure even back then, there were faults.) Now there are so many ways to watch shows.

Renéerogueslayer452 on May 12th, 2018 09:02 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I always felt like B99 was kind of mismatched with FOX, and while I didn't think much at the time, it did seem rather strange that it was the only Mike Schur comedy not on NBC, since it would've fit so much better with that lineup. So them reviving it and bring it onto their network makes much more sense.

I know that it's probably harder now with all these different ways of watching shows, including our habits of how we end up watching them, which is probably why they've kept it for as long as they have. But it's such an inefficient system, and it needs to be changed because it doesn't make sense in our technologically advanced world as it is.
Laura: The Orville: Crewviolateraindrop on May 12th, 2018 11:04 am (UTC)
I'm soooo happy that it'll be on NBC. Schur's new comedy (Abby's?) will also be on NBC. Considering The Good Place also has shorter seasons, that might not be a sign that this is the final season. Maybe that was the plan all along and Fox didn't like it?

Now I'm mostly sad about Lucifer cancelation. That's one that I didn't expect at all. And neither did anyone involved, so we already know it'll end on a cliffhanger -.-

I think Fox took into account how many people recorded The Orville and watched it within 7 days. That's already a step forward. Amazon Germany has some shows they get rather quickly, some after one day. The Crossing (which was also just canceled) can be viewed four weeks after the premiere in the US which is pretty cool. That also means it's only on episode three and now it's already canceled. I wish there was a way to legally watch more US shows after a day or even a week.
Renée: Dark Matter. Two.rogueslayer452 on May 13th, 2018 07:24 am (UTC)
Perhaps, I don't know. At least NBC saved it, so that's all that matters. :)

Although I didn't watch Lucifer I am bummed about it being cancelled, because I've heard so many good things about it and I also thought it was doing very well for itself. :/

I wish there was a way to legally watch more US shows after a day or even a week.

Yeah, this is an issue I've seen brought up many times. Networks have to consider international audiences which also count as views, and in order to do that they have to make it readily available for them on streaming sites. I don't know how comparable it is to movies, and I'm not that knowledgeable on how it works, but don't movies in theaters often count international sales along with domestic box office sales? Why can't television do the same thing? IDK, there is just such an imbalance now with different ways people watch shows (not always live, either) that the ratings system needs to be updated to accommodate these changes for the modern era, and this should include international audiences as well because it is unfair when their views don't count, either.
Nadine: Brooklyn 99 - Holtmalicat on May 12th, 2018 12:17 pm (UTC)
Yesterday I actually said to a friend that I'd prefer for NBC to pick it up and now it actually happened. Obviously I would have been happy about ANY network but hopefully they will pair it up with The Good Place now on thursdays :)
I had more shows cancelled yesterday (Lucifer especially hurt) so this was really nice to read first thing after I woke up!
Renéerogueslayer452 on May 13th, 2018 04:45 am (UTC)
I loved reading the blurb that NBC made about rescuing the show, saying that they regretted not taking it on when they had the chance years ago and are happy that B99 is back where it should belong, and I absolutely agree! I'm amazed that it lasted as long as it did on FOX, but FOX barely did right by it anyway. Either way, I'm just glad that it has a new and better home. :)

I read about Lucifer and even though I hadn't watched the show, I knew many loved it and seeing it gone, and probably on a cliffhanger too, is just sad. :(
noybusiness: capricaboomerwarheroesnoybusiness on May 12th, 2018 01:01 pm (UTC)
Now if they'd only do the same thing for Lucifer.
Renée: Agents of Shield. Skye.rogueslayer452 on May 12th, 2018 09:12 pm (UTC)
I haven't watched the show yet (it's been on my to-watch list), but I was sad to hear about Lucifer being cancelled. :(
haebin: pink rosehaebin on May 12th, 2018 01:34 pm (UTC)
I am glad that Brooklyn Nine-Nine got another season. I didn't watch it yet but like always I have it on my to-watch-list. A close friend of mine is a huge fan of it and always telling me I should watch it.
I can't understand why really good series getting cancelled and bad ones getting one season after another. -_-
But afterall, we get a second season!

Renéerogueslayer452 on May 13th, 2018 03:58 am (UTC)
It's such a wonderful show, and it's very easy to binge-watch, not just because the episodes are half and hour but it's also due to how hilarious it is. It's very addicting. Someone commented on how B99 is like a warm hug, and it's so true. I'm so happy it was quickly revived by NBC. :)

I can't understand why really good series getting cancelled and bad ones getting one season after another. -_-

The system is fucked, that's why. Not just the outdated Nielsen system, but the system as a whole with the constant greed of money and whatnot. Money rules the system, and many good things get screwed over in the process.
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Profiterole_profiterole_ on May 12th, 2018 02:48 pm (UTC)
I'm super happy at the news itself and at how fast NBC reacted. :D
Renéerogueslayer452 on May 12th, 2018 05:40 pm (UTC)
I believe it was a combination of Mike Schur's influence (all his shows have been on NBC except for B99) and the fact that B99 is technically owned by NBC anyway, so it would make sense for them to pick it up. I'm just so, so happy. It's been a whiplash of emotions, let me tell you.
we can't give up. that's the deal.: chyler // otteromgpeyton on May 12th, 2018 03:23 pm (UTC)
I'm so happy for the fandom! I can only imagine what sorts of emotions that forces someone to go through.

But I agree that the discussions that have come from this (and many cancellations in the past year) have been interesting and imo, SO necessary. The fact that it's so hard to stream shows in other countries, and honestly just in general sometimes, is so outdated. The fact that episode purchases from things like itunes aren't counted in just doesn't make sense! We live in a wonderfully convenient "watch when you have time" and "binge watch" culture. That really needs to be considered.
Renée: Pretty Little Liars. Spencer Hastings.rogueslayer452 on May 13th, 2018 03:09 am (UTC)
Just imagine how it was for the cast who were just as emotional as us, if not more, during this whole situation.

We live in a wonderfully convenient "watch when you have time" and "binge watch" culture. That really needs to be considered.

Exactly. Times have changed from when we all used to sit around and watch shows weekly, now with all these different platforms and different ways of viewing something to fit our convenience people have stopped waiting a week just to watch an episode of their favorite show. Never mind that even that had become a hassle in itself with all the hiatuses and such, and oftentimes we would forget when a show returned due to our busy schedules and too many other shows to keep up with (and also due to networks never properly advertising anything), television became more of a chore to keep up with. Now, we have the luxury to have some options available, and those should be taken into account.

Traditional media really needs to get with the times and stop holding onto an outdated system that isn't that efficient anyway.
Laura: B99 Jake teddycookielaura on May 12th, 2018 06:46 pm (UTC)
So, so relieved!

I find it mind boggling that there are so many things they don't take into account with the ratings.
Renée: Haven. Audrey Parker.rogueslayer452 on May 13th, 2018 02:16 am (UTC)
It is an ancient inefficient system that isn't always accurate anyway. Sure, when it comes to cancellations/renewals of shows it's mostly based on the main decision by TPTB which isn't always about ratings, but the Nielsen ratings are a huge contributing factor in these decisions and it's just such an outdated system anyway.

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icecoldrainicecoldrain on May 12th, 2018 06:52 pm (UTC)
FOX has cancelled so many shows that I'm wondering what the heck is left?! lol. I only watch a few shows and only one was renewed (that's staying on the network).

YESSSSSS. I think The CW is one of the few networks that takes online streaming etc. into consideration over the Nielsen rating system that's beyond outdated.
Renée: Elementary. Joan Watson.rogueslayer452 on May 13th, 2018 02:09 am (UTC)
I know, right? They basically did a mass purge and are practically revamping their lineup for whatever reason. I know that FOX is reviving that horrendously conservative Tim Allen show that was cancelled a while ago (why are they doing it? I don't even know), which some speculated that once that was a go B99 was definitely going to be gone. But with everything else, idek. I never understand why networks often get rid of most of their shows, even with the well-received, highly rated shows.

The CW is one of the only networks that doesn't cancel anything unless it has 100% lower than low ratings. While that's definitely a blessing in most cases, sometimes it can get pretty annoying because sometimes certain shows go on longer than they need to be. Regardless, their business model is mostly not going by the traditional way of counting only the Nielsen rating system. Which is what every other television network should be doing.
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💋: i never learnmaybe on May 13th, 2018 01:58 pm (UTC)
It's a broken outdated system that traditional media needs to get rid of and find a better, more efficient way of calculating the numbers and views for shows from all platforms worldwide
Srsly. CW is a little better at this and are way ahead of the other major networks, but I also think they have an issue with listening a little too much to the people on social media. I've seen so many CW shows start off great but then they start letting the loud obnoxious fanbases dictate what happens on their shows. I'm seeing it lately with Riverdale and it's irritating me so much.

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Renée: Heroes. Claire Bennet.rogueslayer452 on May 13th, 2018 06:51 pm (UTC)
but I also think they have an issue with listening a little too much to the people on social media. I've seen so many CW shows start off great but then they start letting the loud obnoxious fanbases dictate what happens on their shows.

Yeah, that's the biggest issue the CW has as a whole. Sure, they don't follow the traditional way of calculating views and ratings like everyone else does, which can be a saving grace for some shows, but the CW is too much of a pushover when it comes allowing the loud vocal fanbase dictate what should or shouldn't happen on a show. Also, I think the CW thinks that all of their shows should be targeted to a very specific demographic and will alter things to what they think the audiences wants versus what should actually happen organically within the story. It's irritating and it brings shows that started off good down into a hot melodramatic mess when they shouldn't be.

It make an example, think of YA books. There's YA books, and then there's the YA™ subgenre within the YA category where it is literally every single bad cliched trope you can think of that follows the same formula, the same plot, the same forced romantic nonsense, etc. That's what the CW is. There may be good shows here and there that don't follow that particular formula which I'm grateful for, but as a whole network the CW it is literally the bad side of the YA genre.

(Which is very odd when you think about how the CW was the merging of the WB and UPN, since both those networks had actual good programming back in the day, so idk what happened to make the combined CW think that what they're doing now is a good business model.)
Naomi: The Good Wife by fracturedshapesfrelling_tralk on May 13th, 2018 05:04 pm (UTC)
I totally agree about how frustrating it is when networks don’t recognise how viewership has changed, international audiences have been crying out for a way to legally steam shows the following day, but of course it’s more important for Sky or whoever to keep their exclusive viewing rights. I feel like something will have to change soon though, because so many younger audiences are exclusively watching online and on their phones/not being counted by Neilson, and that number is only going to grow.
Renée: Elementary. Joan Watson.rogueslayer452 on May 13th, 2018 07:29 pm (UTC)
I feel like something will have to change soon though, because so many younger audiences are exclusively watching online and on their phones/not being counted by Neilson, and that number is only going to grow.

Exactly. Many people aren't watching live television anymore because there are other alternatives to watching something, so traditional media relying on an ancient (often unreliable) system to count numbers isn't going to help matters in the long run. They are only hurting themselves if they aren't going to adapt and keep up with the times, which then fucks everyone else over in the process. It's a lose-lose situation, basically.
giallarhorn: Jack mehgiallarhorn on May 14th, 2018 02:22 am (UTC)
That has got to be one of the fastest turnarounds in recent history, at least.

The problem is that there hasn't been nearly as much movement in the sector to update the rating system, or more specifically, develop/deploy the system that'd enable tracking it on a much better basis. Netflix/Amazon prime get away with it because they got developed much more around it, so I kinda get why they use it (in place, more cost effective than developing a new one, etc), even if it doesn't change streaming is now the new future.
Renéerogueslayer452 on May 14th, 2018 05:37 am (UTC)
Agreed. I was worried that once all the other supposed networks passed on renewing it that it was done for, but then NBC swept in and saved the day. Granted, I do think once it was announced that FOX cancelled it that Mike Schur immediately was in contact with NBC for the possibility of picking it up. I feel like if Schur didn't have NBC on his side already it would've been a longer waiting game. Regardless, I'm very happy. :D

Yeah, and I'm pretty sure they're all very well aware of how things have changed and that they need to update everything for the digital age, but the matter of how is quite difficult to manage because everything is evolving rather quickly. IDK.
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4kennedy4kennedy on May 14th, 2018 06:41 pm (UTC)
Not watching the show, but I'm happy for all the fans that it got picked up by another chanel. it happens so rarely
Renéerogueslayer452 on May 14th, 2018 07:10 pm (UTC)
It does happen so rarely, especially with it being picked up the day after its cancellation announcement. That is basically the fastest recovery, not to mention the biggest emotional whiplash I've ever experienced.
L: braidedmeringues on May 15th, 2018 01:40 pm (UTC)
I'm glad B99 got saved, but I'm gutted that FOX cancelled Lucifer as well... I'd been enjoying Designated Survivor as well, though it's steadily gone downhill since it's impressive pilot
Renée: Blair Waldorf.rogueslayer452 on May 15th, 2018 03:53 pm (UTC)
Lucifer is a show that I didn't watch but wanted to because I heard good things about it, and I kept seeing gifs of it so I have been curious, but never quite found the time to sit down and watch an entire season properly. Hearing that it's cancelled (and on a cliffhanger too) is so upsetting. I hate it when shows basically end up getting cancelled on a massive cliffhanger, leaving fans angry and frustrated and unsatisfied. :(

Some are hoping that it finds a new home, but the only network I can probably see picking it up would be the CW, but idk if they would pick up the entire show or just save the character like they did with Constantine.
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~*Suzy Q*~blakmagjick on May 19th, 2018 12:25 am (UTC)
See...if I waited on my comment for a couple more entries, I would have seen you posted about it (cause of course you would know this before me...hahah)

I enjoyed the first few episodes that I watched, and I'm looking forward to watching more, and glad that it was picked up!
Renéerogueslayer452 on May 19th, 2018 05:07 pm (UTC)
lol, it's okay, I kinda figured that you were going through your flist. ;)

B99 is one of those shows that you can just binge-watch and it never gets old. It just continues to be an absolute joy of half an hour entertainment each episode. :)