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02 August 2018 @ 02:39 pm
When you fail at perception checks...  
++ Apparently it's been clarified that Buffy the Vampire Slayer will not be remade. While that's great and all, I'm just wondering why this wasn't initially stated during the original announcement? It would have saved us all this anger and grief. Furthermore, this new statement is just as vague as the first one, and I have to be honest I'm still not entirely trusting of anything at this point. In an age where remakes/reboots are unfortunately dominating everything in media, we need something more direct and straightforward with a project like this instead of merely dancing around the subject, meaning we need more clarification and information on what their exact intentions are. Basically, they'll have to work pretty hard to prove that they're not bullshitting us. As for right now, I'm still remaining wary and apprehensive about this whole thing until we get more details.

++ So, about Wynonna Earp: That was some bullshit right there, and one that I don't think I can get past. Even if the actor wanted to leave the show for whatever reason, killing off his character was the laziest motherfucking thing ever, it was not only unacceptable but also disrespectful to the memory of Dolls and to the actor who clearly wanted to do more with the character but, of course, the show cared more about the white male character than they did about a black man and the potential of his storyline which went completely ignored after the first season. It seemed pretty clear he wanted more from his character (something we all wanted, from his backstory of how he got into Black Badge, his family and history there, to him being a dragon, along with his feelings regarding Wynonna which is now all going to be frustratingly unresolved) but when it seemed that it wasn't going to happen he decided to leave on his own terms, which is sad and disappointing but I respect, but clearly y'all didn't respect him enough to give him any decent sendoff that didn't end in Dolls dying, which literally came out of nowhere. There is nothing that infuriates me more than lazy writing where they basically kill of characters when there are other options of not having the character be present when the actor is absent, not to mention the mistreatment of POC actors/characters who often get sidelined in the shows they're in, often in favor of white characters. It's fucked up bullshit. Shamier Anderson deserved better, Xavier Dolls deserved better.

(Keep in mind I'm not blaming the actor who plays Doc or even Doc himself, I'm blaming the writers for not focusing on actually writing and exploring all the characters equally, including Dolls who had so much potential with his storyline and arc that we were given since the first season and we were all waiting for something, anything, to be shown of him, but it went completely ignored; I'm also blaming certain factions of the fandom for dismissing Dolls since some preferred the Doc/Wynonna dynamic more and thought Dolls was an "obstacle", just fuck off with y'all.)

It seems that Emily Andras has learned nothing since Lost Girl, and I was a damn fool for believing that she would. She's still recycling the same bullshit she did there, taking a very interesting show that has potential and running it into the ground with useless, pointless decisions. So, I think I'm done with Wynonna Earp. It's sad to say because Wynonna, as a character, is awesome and my girl and I love Melanie's face, plus I was actually excited about the third season not too long ago, but this was so unforgivable that I don't think I'll be able to continue watching. Dolls was a character I loved and wanted to know more of, but the show never delivered and in the end decided, actor leaving or not, it was easier to kill him off than actually want to have anything to do with him. That lack of respect is something that I'm just not comfortable with, tbh.

++ In other news, we have the official Castlevania season two trailer and it looks absolutely amazing. If you haven't watched the first season, I highly recommend you should. It's only four episodes, each half and hour, and not only is the animation smooth and gorgeous but the story is very intriguing, not to mention dark and gorey. The second season will have eight episodes and, just from the looks of it, will be just as gruesome as the first, if not more, and I can't wait.

++ Terry Crews has appeared on the latest episode of CelebriD&D, a webseries on Geek & Sundry where celebrity guests who are fans of Dungeons & Dragons or other MMORPG games play a special one-shot game with the lovely DM, Matt Mercer. I think it's really cool that this series focuses on actors and celebrities that have a love of D&D, something that often gets overlooked in their careers unless they talk about it constantly in interviews and such, because it shows that people have always been geeky about these things, it's just that now since it's become more socially acceptable and mainstream to like geeky hobbies they're more likely to be open about their love of it. Vin Diesel is notorious for this, as is Joe Manganiello who is a massive D&D nerd (has guested both on this series and on Critical Role as his own created character), plus so many others. I love that it continues to normalize the fact that hey, celebrities are just like us, they love geeky nerdy shit just like we do and given the opportunity they will gush about it.

For those curious, I highly recommend watching this Terry Crews episode when you have the time, considering it's about two-and-a-half hours long. But it's so worth it. It's utterly delightful watching him just have so much fun, as it is with anyone who guests on this series. It's just a bunch of actors and voice actors playing together and having fun, that's basically the appeal of these kinds of games and watching others play. Though I wish that Terry would guest on a one-shot for the second campaign of Critical Role. Terry of the Nine-Nine teaming up with The Mighty Nein!
 
 
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night_owl_9: Kate Winsletnight_owl_9 on August 2nd, 2018 09:56 pm (UTC)
Shamier Anderson deserved better, Xavier Dolls deserved better. - THIS.

Aahhhhhh Castlevania!

Edit: LOVE the entry title :D

I can't wait to watch the Terry Crews episode. It looks like so much fun!

Edited at 2018-08-02 09:58 pm (UTC)
author_by_night: Pawnee sign by nuv0le_rapideauthor_by_night on August 2nd, 2018 10:02 pm (UTC)
While that's great and all, I'm just wondering why this wasn't initially stated during the original announcement? It would have saved us all this anger and grief.

Either they made the announcement before even they were really sure, or it was basically all clickbait gone wild before. Although arguably, that could be the same thing.
Renée: BTVS. Buffy Summers.rogueslayer452 on August 2nd, 2018 11:17 pm (UTC)
Yeah, but the thing is I know that someone else wrote the original article that reported the news which then started the chain reaction of freakouts, so it makes me wonder whether whoever did that misunderstood what the announcement was about or they were going by what was actually said. Because the entire thing was super vague to begin with, so it would be true that even they didn't know. I do think using the word "reboot" was a bad call, even if it technically is correct that they would be rebooting the franchise, it's just that word now has negative connotations attached to it nowadays thanks to everything that is considered a "reboot" being just a "remake".

Basically, it's all still very vague at this point that I don't know what to think. I don't know whether they're just saying what we want to hear or if they're truly being sincere. That's why we need more details and confirmation on what they mean.
Artemiscrsg on August 3rd, 2018 04:21 am (UTC)
Oh hell yes, I am so pumped for the second season of Castlevania!
Renéerogueslayer452 on August 3rd, 2018 06:02 am (UTC)
Just based on the footage in the trailer alone, I know that it's gonna be good. :)
squint13: Villanelle 2squint13 on August 3rd, 2018 03:50 pm (UTC)
Yeeeeah, I'm super disappointed in WE at the moment. I still love the show, but man. I was so confused, I had no idea Shamier was leaving (and I didn't go on twitter until I'd watched both WE and Killjoys), so up until the very end I was SO SURE they'd save him. When they didn't I was just like, "what. just happened. WHAT".

It's such shitty writing. I see people all over twitter going 'but what should they have done then? death was the best way'. NO IT WASN'T. The easiest, sure. But what's fun about that? (By fun, I mean, fun as in the writing, the challenge of writing something reaaaaaally good, and not just. 'he dies'. Meh.) I mean. Dolls could've decided on his own to leave, for some secret mission, and then it'd be open for Dolls/Shamier to return by the end of the show or something. Or maybe he got bodyswapped! Or body-morphed, something happened that made his appearance change. Idk, this is just lame spit-balling, but anything other than death would've been better.

And I know the show isn't exactly doing well by any of its other poc characters either. Every single one of them is either an antagonist/antagonistic, dead, or basically comic relief (I love Jeremy, but every single time the fact that he's gay comes up, it's to be funny. Oh, haha, he has a crush on Doc, HILARIOUS. Also, someone on autostraddle pointed out in their comic that he's also the 'genius/geeky asian' trope, so there's also that.). And now Dolls is gone, the one black man, and now they introduce another black character. One at a time, I guess!

I'll keep watching, because agreed on Mel's face (she makes the best faces <3) and Wyn <3 and also I'm curious about certain guest stars and whether they're gonna be in any scenes together, but uuuuh, this really gave me a sour taste. UGHHHHHHH. >.<
Renée: Jessica Jones.rogueslayer452 on August 4th, 2018 06:05 am (UTC)
I was so confused, I had no idea Shamier was leaving

I don't think any of us knew he was leaving until after that episode aired, when the death was so sudden and didn't make much sense. As if the explanation of the actor leaving is any excuse to kill off the character.

It's such shitty writing. I see people all over twitter going 'but what should they have done then? death was the best way'. NO IT WASN'T.

It really is shitty writing. It makes no sense for them to do this. And for anyone who tries to claim that death was the only answer, they can shove it. There are dozens of other options they could have gone with to explain his absence, from having him go on a top secret mission away from Purgatory or have there be an mystical/paranormal explanation for him not being there physically (it is that kind of show where such things are possible, why not use it?), plus it meant leaving the door open for the actor to return should he choose to do so. And even if he didn't, it still leaves it open that the character is still alive and well and that the communication between the characters is still there, just not seen. Putting characters on the bus is far more compelling than simply fridging them.

Basically, it's lazy writing and I have no time for that.

(And in contrast with what we talked about regarding Critical Role, when death happens there it's not always permanent but even if it is and it's devastating, it still doesn't feel cheapened. Critical Role is unscripted so there is no premeditated actions of intentionally killing off characters, unlike scripted television where there is time to think through these things and often are done for the cheapness of tired tropes for views.)

And I know the show isn't exactly doing well by any of its other poc characters either.

Yeah, and that's also been a huge disappointment, too. :/ Especially with Jeremy, because while he's adorable, I hate that they continue to use his gayness as a joke. Apparently the only LGBT representation they need to feel validated as a show is Waverly/Nicole, and even that is stretching it at this point (unpopular opinion? I don't really care about them that much, since aside from the first season where Waverly comes out of her shell and discovers her sexuality, their relationship has had very little substance and whatever they try to do with them either involves miscommunication, violation of boundaries, or cheating.) But yeah, Wynonna Earp hasn't really had a great track record with POC characters.

And now Dolls is gone, the one black man, and now they introduce another black character. One at a time, I guess!

Gotta have that replaceable token minority character! Just, ugh. It makes me angry, but not surprised that this continues to happen. Dolls wasn't a minor supporting character, he was part of the main team and had so much potential with his story, and it was all wasted because the show couldn't even bother to do anything with him and then kill him off when the actor decides to leave. Ugh.

Good luck continuing watching the show. I just can't do it. There were little things I didn't like, mainly in the second season, but I was willing to overlook them and remain positive for the future of the show. But then this happened, and it came out of left field for many of us, and it just was the final straw for me. I feel betrayed because it felt like they did this for the shock value in response for the actor deciding to leave, and it sickens me.
Nathaniel Wolfthornganimede on August 3rd, 2018 06:28 pm (UTC)
There was an article on Gizmodo here that said it's going to be more Buffy: The Next Generation. A new Slayer for a new age. I only watched the first few series, but I seem to remember there were at least two other slayers in the programme so it seems like that would be a good direction in which to take it.
Renée: BTVS. Buffy Summers.rogueslayer452 on August 3rd, 2018 07:13 pm (UTC)
I only watched the first few series, but I seem to remember there were at least two other slayers in the programme so it seems like that would be a good direction in which to take it.

Well, it's more complicated than that. The lore follows that "into every generation a Slayer is born", which basically meant that only one Slayer is called at a time. In the first season, Buffy died briefly for a minute before being revived, but it was enough time to call the next Slayer, Kendra. When Kendra died, Faith was called. But at that time no two Slayers were supposed to exist at the same time, which is what made Buffy's legacy unique. In the series finale Buffy decided to end this particular archaic rule system (which was already fucked up to begin with thanks to men and the Watcher's Council) by activating all the potential Slayers in the world, which is how the show ended. Buffy and Faith weren't the only Slayers in the world now.

And so having a spin-off sequel series be about the next generation of future Slayers (not just one, but many) is something fans have been wanting. It's just the next logical step to take after the finale. In my opinion, I would want the new series to focus on a new Slayer who is trying to find other Slayers that she knows exist, and they kind of form their own little group. Perhaps since Buffy herself is a known legacy/legend they're all trying to find her, and come across many evils along the way. That would not only be original, it would still be connected to the mythos of BTVS.

But so far, all the articles out there are basically just claiming different things about what they assume the newer series is going to be about. I'm only waiting for the official word from the actual people involved. And so far what they have to say has been incredibly vague on what they want to do. So, we'll have to wait and see.

Edited at 2018-08-03 07:14 pm (UTC)
Nadine: Wynonna Earp - Dollsmalicat on August 3rd, 2018 06:48 pm (UTC)
I agree with you on Wynonna Earp. I won't be watching anymore either. It's both because of the death itself but also how parts of the fandom has reacted to it. As long as the white lesbians are ok,the majority doesn't really care about any POCs *sigh*
That said,I actually prefered Wynonna/Doc from the start and love Doc to bits and pieces and while he definitely did always get more screentime and more development,I also think that Emily Andras totally hates him and WynDoc as well. At least that's how it always came across in interviews and stuff?
I always hated how the love triangle was handled because to me it felt that she didn't want to ever really solve it (regardless of Shamier leaving now or not) and only stringed the shippers along,throwing them a bone every now and then. I can't imagine that either the WynDoc or WynDolls shippers were really happy. I for one was not :/

Edited at 2018-08-03 06:50 pm (UTC)
Renée: Pretty Little Liars. Spencer Hastings.rogueslayer452 on August 3rd, 2018 09:17 pm (UTC)
As long as the white lesbians are ok,the majority doesn't really care about any POCs *sigh*

I know, right? -_-

It just makes me so angry. Dolls wasn't just some minor character, he was part of the main cast, he's been there since day one, and he's been a crucial part of Wynonna's growth and journey. And yet the show treated him like he was expendable. I kept waiting for more of his story to unravel, to learn more about him as a person, his backstory, but it never happened. I don't blame the actor for wanting to move on if they weren't giving him worthwhile content to work with, but the show should never have opted for killing off his character. That is lazy as fuck writing which I have no tolerance for. I have quit watching shows that have done this before, and WE is no exception to this rule.

I also think that Emily Andras totally hates him and WynDoc as well. At least that's how it always came across in interviews and stuff?

I never really paid much attention to her interviews to be honest so I can't judge from there, but I never really got that impression from watching the show. It seemed like they were pulling away from the Wynonna/Dolls (the ship I most prefer) in favor of pushing the Wynonna/Doc dynamic. At least that's how it seemed to me.

But I do agree that the show never actually properly dealt with the whole love triangle aspect, a trope I dislike and wish stories would stop doing. There was no communication or actual talk Wynonna had about her feelings regarding both Doc and Dolls. There were moments where I thought it might be addressed, but it never does. They were literally dancing around the subject and kind of playing both shipping sides, leading on the fans thinking that something was gonna happen with either but they were too chickenshit to commit to anything. And that is probably the most disingenuous thing to do, to be honest, because you can't play both sides at attempts to make everyone happy. That's not going to work.

The only way it would've worked was for the love triangle to turn into a polyamorous arrangement. That is something I, personally, would have loved and kinda wanted to happen since there were moments that I thought it was 100% plausible, and it would've made up for the lack of it in Lost Girl. But nope. Emily Andras disappoints once again.

So yeah, I'm done with this show. It's unfortunate because I was curious about how the third season was gonna go, but this really sours any excitement I previously had and that's not gonna go away any time soon. They done fucked up when there were so many other options they could have done to explain why Dolls would no longer be there. I'm so bitter, angry, and disappointed.
L: catnapmeringues on August 4th, 2018 02:56 am (UTC)
Yeah, I'm still reeling over what happened to Dolls as well...
Renéerogueslayer452 on August 4th, 2018 06:10 am (UTC)
It was so stupid. It's one thing for an actor who wants to leave, it's sad but understandable, but when a show thinks that death of their character is the only option in response to that, that's when I get angry. It's just lazy as fuck.
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Ery-chan: pic#105558586erychan86 on August 5th, 2018 03:45 pm (UTC)
Yay! Great news for Buffy!!!!
Renée: BTVS. Buffy Summers.rogueslayer452 on August 5th, 2018 11:02 pm (UTC)
Well, I wouldn't say "great news" just yet. All that's been said is that they're not replicating the original series, which while good they cleared that up, but that doesn't really mean much of anything at this point without any furthering details of what their plans actually are, never mind as to why they didn't just lead with that in the first place. So I'm not entirely trusting of anything until we get more information.

Edited at 2018-08-05 11:04 pm (UTC)
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Jessicaimpala_chick on August 5th, 2018 09:04 pm (UTC)
So weird re: the Buffy the Vampire Slayer Buzz. I wonder what the point of it is? Just to stir up controversy?
Renée: BTVS. Buffy Summers.rogueslayer452 on August 5th, 2018 11:14 pm (UTC)
It's either a miscommunication by whoever made the initial report or they were just "testing the waters" and seeing the reactions of people. Whatever their intentions were, it definitely gained attention, just not a positive one, and even if they wanted to stir controversy it's gonna be really, really hard to gain the trust back from the fanbase who are so fiercely passionate, loyal, and protective of the original series after this. They could have so easily avoided all of this backlash if they had just been upfront about what this new series was going to be.

It's why the new statement still bothers me because, while it clarifies one thing, it's still incredibly vague on what it wants to be and it's not really reassuring to the fans that want a clear answer. They may be in the very early stages, but this was not the right way of going about this announcement.
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M: Dark Matter = mah girlmfirefly10 on August 6th, 2018 03:31 am (UTC)
Hi! How are you? It's been ages...

I agree with you about this new Buffy thing. I'm not getting excited until I know a LOT more about what they're planning.

Ugh, yeah...I hadn't gotten a chance to watch the new season of WE and then I heard about Dolls' death and it just killed any motivation I had to watch it. I hated the way Dolls was pushed to the side in season 2. He was such an important part of why I enjoyed season 1 and to see the show just fail the character/the actor on every level was really disappointing. And now, instead of giving him an open-ended exit so SA could return somewhere down the line if he chose to, they took the lazy way out and killed him. I'm just so tired of shows doing that.
Renée: Dark Matter. Two.rogueslayer452 on August 6th, 2018 07:01 am (UTC)
Hey you! I've been doing good. How have you been lately?

I agree with you about this new Buffy thing. I'm not getting excited until I know a LOT more about what they're planning.

It shouldn't have been hard for them to announce from the start that they're doing a spin-off with a brand new Slayer being the focus. Instead we got a vague statement followed by another vague statement. It's not entirely reassuring.

Ugh, yeah...I hadn't gotten a chance to watch the new season of WE and then I heard about Dolls' death and it just killed any motivation I had to watch it.

Same here. I was actually really excited for the third season, but then this happened, and it ruined any kind of excitement or motivation I had to continue watching. Dolls was an important character to the show, a character I really loved since the very beginning, and seeing at how they sidelined him to the point where the actor probably wanted to leave, and in response to that killed off his character in the most undignified manner possible? As if Dolls never even mattered, as if there wasn't so much unexplored with his character that they initially setup? Yeah, unforgivable.

I honestly hate it when shows do this, because it's such lazy writing and it really shows their incompetence of actually thinking of other alternatives for their storytelling. So I'm just kinda done with the show at this point. :/
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giallarhorn: Jack mehgiallarhorn on August 6th, 2018 12:54 pm (UTC)
I suspect there's backpedaling re Buffy involved after seeing negative feedback. Odd that no one saw that coming at all, but hey.

Tbh, I'm not all that surprised that WE ended up doing that. Seeing how badly Lost Girl went with playing along the love triangle route before, I never put too much stock into how WE would handle it. Not that EA was showrunner for the last season of Lost Girl, but s4 was very, very weak and had a lot of lazy writing.
Renée: Lost Girl. Bo. Succubus.rogueslayer452 on August 6th, 2018 02:57 pm (UTC)
Which makes no sense because BTVS fans have always hated the idea of the series being remade in any capacity.

I remember back in 2010 there was talk about a Buffy reboot movie and there was an immediate backlash from fans and the cast alike, and it was soon scrapped (not due to the negative feedback, since whoever was doing it clearly didn't care about the fan or original cast opinions on their project, but because the script was so bad the studios had little faith and shelved it indefinitely). And apparently they tried to bring up the possibility of a reboot series last year, sans Joss, and everyone still hated the idea, but now they're trying it again this year with having Joss attached in some way. I don't think they have any idea what they want to do, to be honest, because the backpedaling seems very strange when they could have easily announced that it would be a joint collaboration of extending the universe with a brand new Slayer story post-"Chosen", but they didn't. It reads as disingenuous with how all of this has gone down and how they've handled their incredibly vague statements, which isn't really reassuring at all. So I don't really trust anything that comes out of their mouths at this point, tbh.

I'm just really disappointed because Wynonna Earp was such a good show, and part of me really wanted to hope that Emily Andras had learned from her mistakes that happened with Lost Girl, but it seems that she hasn't and probably doesn't care, probably doesn't even realize she even made mistakes or missteps with LG to begin with, same with WE. I know I shouldn't be surprised, but it's still rather disappointing and I'm angry with them and with myself for being fooled into thinking that things would be different this time. :/

Wynonna Earp, the character, will always be my favorite since I adore her and Melanie's incredible acting, but what the show did to Dolls is too unforgivable for me to continue on watching. I loved Dolls as a character and I wanted so much more of him, there was so much potential with his story and it was completely wasted with him being sidelined and then being disrespected with lazy, shitty writing.
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Say what?sometimesartist on August 8th, 2018 06:46 am (UTC)
I'm so glad they are not remaking Buffy anymore. I wish we'd just be over the remakes at this point.

I'm excited to start watching Wynonna Earp. We're behind because it's something I wanna watch with the GF and we went on vacation just as it came back
Renée: Agents of Shield. Skye.rogueslayer452 on August 8th, 2018 07:14 am (UTC)
All these remake/reboot announcements just give me a headache. It's one thing to want to expand upon an already existing universe and continue telling the story, but it's another to basically just do a cash grab by banking on the popularity of nostalgia. Is it that hard to come up with an original concept?
Driver Picks the Musicbatmarg on August 10th, 2018 08:58 pm (UTC)
That trailer for Castlevania looks amazing. I just rewatched s1 and am so ready for more. :D
Renéerogueslayer452 on August 10th, 2018 09:58 pm (UTC)
I know people want more episodes in comparison to the first season with only four, but I think S2 extending it to eight episodes is a good length to really see where the story goes. Either way, I'm excited. :)