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02 September 2018 @ 01:06 pm
A child weaned on poison considers harm a comfort.  
++ I definitely want to read Sharp Objects by Gillian Flynn whenever I get the chance to, because of the high praise of the miniseries which is rightfully deserved. I already knew what the reveal was since I looked it up beforehand, but it still didn't lessen how effective that finale was. It's why I can't wait to actually read the book since I've heard that it's even more chilling and disturbing.

++ Melissa Rosenberg, the creator and showrunner for Netflix's Marvel's Jessica Jones, will be leaving after its third season. Most are worried about what this means for the future of the show. Whether Netflix will cancel it or find a replacement showrunner, and if the latter then will they find someone appropriate to fill in the shoes that will handle the topics and subject matter featured on the show with the same kind of sensitivity and respect that Rosenberg has been adamant about since day one. There's a lot of uncertainty right now, which is understandable. We'll just have to see what happens. Though whoever they choose for the possible next showrunner, I hope they will be more inclusive with adding more WOC/POC, which many have already criticized Rosenberg for excluding, who then claimed that "it didn't occur" to her. So yeah, while there's no doubt that Rosenberg brought a lot of amazing stuff to the show which is worth recognizing, she also lacked in certain areas, too. It's important to acknowledge these flaws and for hoping that S3 and beyond will try to do better in that department, regardless of the showrunner.

++ Veronica Mars will possibly be getting that revival treatment, with a limited eight-episode order on Hulu. I'll be completely honest, I have conflicted feelings about this. I think my main issue is mostly tied to this revival/reboot culture we're currently living in that I've ranted about before, and how oftentimes these revivals have less than desirable results with their final product. Some may be decent, but sometimes you gotta take a step back and go, do we really need this?

I loved Veronica Mars when it aired, but I think as time has gone on I've since gained a different perspective and have come to the conclusion that I only really truly loved the first season, everything else after that was lackluster in some form or another. S2 was a mess, S3 was slightly better but not by much, and I didn't even bother with the reunion movie despite the success of the Kickstarter (which ironically is where I believe this revival trend sparked from, tbh) since it was mostly just bringing back as many actors as possible without there being much of a plot. So, in my opinion, their track record hasn't really been that impressive for getting me on board with this revival. Perhaps I'm being too cynical, idk. It could actually turn out to be rather decent, but as a whole I'm just not at that excitement level as I probably would've been years ago.
 
 
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sometimes, red riding hood will eat the wolf.wretched on September 2nd, 2018 09:37 pm (UTC)
Any time someone asks me to rec a book, Sharp Objects is always on that list (along with Gone Girl and Dark Places). Disturbing and chilling is right, but definitely worth the read. And the show was just A+ casting and honestly while it was a little triggering for me in some scenes I found it amazing.
Renée: Elementary. Joan Watson.rogueslayer452 on September 2nd, 2018 10:11 pm (UTC)
Yeah, the show was definitely something you need to mentally prepare yourself for and be in the right headspace to watch because there's quite a lot of heavy shit, but it's so good. I love psychological thrillers, and I loved Gone Girl, so this was absolutely right up my alley.
goldenusagigoldenusagi on September 3rd, 2018 01:47 am (UTC)
Yeah, I'm kind of meh about Veronica Mars. I'm not sure what else needs to be done with it, I guess. And yeah, the later seasons were definitely not strong.
Renée: Veronica Mars.rogueslayer452 on September 3rd, 2018 04:18 am (UTC)
I feel like they didn't know what to do after S1, since that season was pretty self-contained as it was and actually had a conclusion to its seasonal arc that was satisfactory, and you can tell after that the quality of the show started dwindling and paling in comparison.

I don't think there needs to be a revival, to be honest, unless it's to completely redo the reunion movie into something more cohesive. Because I felt like the point of the movie was to give a sense of closure for fans who were disappointed were the show left off when it was cancelled. I can't really see there being anything more to tell. If there is more, they can have a series of books or comic books for more adventures. But as far as television is concerned, I think it's time to move on from that. Not everything needs to have a revival.
goldenusagigoldenusagi on September 3rd, 2018 07:10 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I felt that the movie was a closure thing. Not a 'we have so many more stories to tell' thing.

But everything that was remotely successful is getting a revival, it seems. I just saw a commercial for Murphy Brown.
Renée: Veronica. Marshmallow.rogueslayer452 on September 4th, 2018 03:01 am (UTC)
It feels like almost everyday there is a new announcement for something to be revived or rebooted, and it's like, enough is enough already. We get it, you want to ride the revival/reboot bandwagon before it disappears, but just because you can doesn't mean you should.
icecoldrain: Stock - Donutsicecoldrain on September 3rd, 2018 03:46 am (UTC)
I need to start the mini series, so I'll eventually read and watch the show in some order lol. One of my friends highly rec'd it early on so I'm excited to check it out.

Oh really? I hadn't heard that. I wonder where the show will go from here. I can't picture Netflix cancelling the show, but you never know. I think it would probably depend on how the next season goes with a new show runner. I def hope they will be more inclusive when the show returns because it's def not right now.
Renée: Jessica Jones.rogueslayer452 on September 3rd, 2018 06:27 am (UTC)
It's a slow-burn psychological thriller, but definitely worth it in the end. You'll have to be in the right mindset to read/watch it though, since it focuses on heavy subject matters (self-harm, emotional abuse) that can be rather triggering for some people, just a forewarning.

Yeah, I can't really picture Netflix cancelling Jessica Jones either, since it's considered the most popular of their Marvel lineup. But with what happened with Sense8 and other shows, you never know. Netflix has started to become more like traditional television in recent years where it can cancel anything for any reason. I don't think a change in showrunners is going to matter much to them, but it can definitely drastically take a turn if the new showrunner doesn't live up to what was already established in the show itself. They really need to find someone who is of the same wavelength and understands the tone of the show, the characters, everything.

Also, I love Jessica Jones (obviously) but the lack of inclusiveness is definitely glaring. It's good that Melissa Rosenberg acknowledged these concerns and criticisms, but it shouldn't even be an afterthought, so it was disappointing reading her response.
Moongirl: Stock Girl Running.moongirl24 on September 3rd, 2018 09:58 am (UTC)
I read Sharp Objects a few years ago, and yes, it's definitely pretty disturbing. It's good, though. I haven't watched the series yet so I can't compare the two, but I think I might want to check it out since I keep hearing how good it is.
Renée: Haven. Audrey Parker.rogueslayer452 on September 3rd, 2018 03:30 pm (UTC)
The miniseries is very good, excellent casting with strong performances. Amy Adams knocks it out of the park, I've always loved her in things but this one was on a whole other level. And the newcomer actress who plays Amma is just phenomenal.
Danielaeiffels on September 3rd, 2018 02:11 pm (UTC)
I had started watching Sharp Objects when it first premiered but stopped because it was something I really needed to focus on. Lately I’ve been keen to revisit it and definitely read the book! (I may do that first actually).
Renée: Heroes. Claire Bennet.rogueslayer452 on September 3rd, 2018 03:33 pm (UTC)
Yeah, the miniseries is definitely a slow-burn that kind of demands your attention, and not only that but the heavy subject matter is something that might not be for everyone to consume casually, so it's best to mentally prepare yourself before going into it. But it's absolutely worth it.
hamarakissahamarakissa on September 3rd, 2018 02:52 pm (UTC)
I definitely need to read Sharp Objects

I totally agree with you about VM. S1 was my all time favorite while the other seasons were okay, but nothing fantastic. I did watch the movie, but still nothing will ever compare to S1 for me. I'm really hesitant about a revival. I hope they do it justice, but with saying that I doubt that'll happen :x
Renéerogueslayer452 on September 3rd, 2018 05:08 pm (UTC)
I find season one to be self-contained enough that it exists separately from the rest of the show, like it's far removed from everything else they tried to do afterwards that you can just watch the first season by itself without watching the rest of the show and be satisfied with how things were resolved with its seasonal arc. Plus, the season had a certain dreamlike-feel to it that could not be emulated no matter how hard they tried.

I just think they didn't know what to do after the first season, and it shows.

I hope they do it justice, but with saying that I doubt that'll happen :x

Yeah, since most revivals don't really do their original series justice, with some of them being merely passable at best, and only a few actually being really good.
haebin: naturehaebin on September 3rd, 2018 05:21 pm (UTC)
I heard a lot of good things about Sharp Objects. Of course it is on my to-watch-list as well. :)

Oh, I hope they will continue with Jessica Jones. *crossingfingers*
Renée: Jessica Jones.rogueslayer452 on September 3rd, 2018 05:36 pm (UTC)
It's pretty fantastic. I can't wait to get the book to start reading it. :)

I'm pretty sure they will. It's doubtful that they would cancel one of their best Marvel shows because the showrunner is leaving, but then again Netflix has made some questionable decisions in recent years so the concerns people have are valid.
Laura: Jessica Jonesviolateraindrop on September 3rd, 2018 06:05 pm (UTC)
At this point, I don't think that the Marvel shows on Netflix are as save as we all think. They might just cancel the show itself and Jessica will appear on another show.
Renée: Jessica Jones.rogueslayer452 on September 3rd, 2018 06:59 pm (UTC)
Yeah, it's a genuine fear some have which is completely valid. After the lukewarm response to the second season, if the third season doesn't perform well combine with Melissa Rosenberg leaving the position as showrunner, it might send the wrong message to Netflix about its value. :/ I love Jessica and her show is probably the only one of all the Netflix Marvel lineup I actually tolerate, so the potential thought of losing the show is heartbreaking to me. :(

I hope I'm wrong though, and that it continues being on. But it does beg the question on long can these Netflix Marvel series will last? Do they have a plan of where they want to end?
Laura: The Defenders: Matt & Jessicaviolateraindrop on September 23rd, 2018 08:19 pm (UTC)
But it does beg the question on long can these Netflix Marvel series will last? Do they have a plan of where they want to end?
I keep thinking about that! They kinda canceled The Defenders, but Iron First got a second season despite the bad reviews. Daredevil got a second season way too fast which ended up being a lot weaker than the first one. Makes it look as if they don't have a real plan like they do with the movies. It would make sense to have three seasons per character maybe? I don't how The Punisher and a potential Elektra show fit into that.

Then you have Disney's new streaming service. So far the plans are to expand movie characters, but in the long run, they probably want all their shows on there. Maybe that's already the death sentence for the Marvel Netflix shows.
Renée: Agents of Shield. Skye.rogueslayer452 on September 23rd, 2018 08:41 pm (UTC)
Then you have Disney's new streaming service. So far the plans are to expand movie characters, but in the long run, they probably want all their shows on there. Maybe that's already the death sentence for the Marvel Netflix shows.

Yeah, I was just thinking about this too since the announcement of the Disney streaming service having shows centered around MCU characters. I feel like there's a lot of uncertainty in the air about that, and I'm just worried about the outcome. :/
Naomi: Gone Girl Amy by iwillnotdancefrelling_tralk on September 3rd, 2018 10:00 pm (UTC)
The book is definitely worth a read! I think I would agree that it is more chilling in some ways, Amma comes off as a lot more childlike in the book, part of her creepiness is that it’s a little girl who has only just turned 13 and still plays with dolls who turns out to be the one responsible for the killings. I was unsure about the tv casting at first for that reason, but then of course the actress turned out to be perfect in the end.

At first I was unsure if they had aged Amma up or not though, in the miniseries Amma and her friends came off as around 15/16 to me, but I guess that’s tv casting for you lol, and I can appreciate why they wouldn’t want to hire an actual 13 year old for some of those scenes
Renée: Elementary. Joan Watson.rogueslayer452 on September 4th, 2018 06:34 am (UTC)
I've heard so many good things about the book, and if I enjoyed the miniseries I know I'll really enjoy the book! :D

I know some were hoping for a little younger actress because it would have amped up the disturbing factor of a young child doing these violent acts, making the reveal much more shocking and chilling, but the actress they chose ended up doing such a fantastic job that you can forgive the television casting of someone slightly more older because her performance was so good. But it makes me want to read the book even more.