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16 August 2019 @ 12:27 pm
The price of being a fan in fandom.  
++ I just found out that ThinkGeek closed its online store recently and have relocated by integrating with GameStop instead (which is kind of a downgrade imho, aesthetically and functionally). I have always looked on the ThinkGeek site for anything new and interesting with fandom/geeky merch, and have bought things from time to time, but I do agree with some of the criticisms that some of the stuff was a bit too overpriced and they didn't really update a whole lot in recent years. I'm just sad I missed their "moving out" sale since I was dealing with health issues during the time it happened, I could have gotten great deals on things I had always wanted to get.

++ Wil Wheaton is suing Geek & Sundry over profits of a webseries he created. Although I had watched G&S since it debuted, I've been hearing some unfavorable things ever since it was sold to Legendary (LDN) years ago and the changes they'd started making once they took over and the clashing between them and the staffers/creators. So yeah, I hope he wins.

++ Tumblr has been bought by the owner of Wordpress for less than 3 million dollars, which is significantly less than what it was originally bought for by Yahoo years ago. It's kind of hilarious seeing big corporations who clearly never understood the platforms they were buying (Yahoo legitimately thought that Tumblr was "the next generation PDF" which...what?) and thinking they could profit off of ending up with a massive financial loss for fucking it up big time, but it does leave the question of what this means for the site now. The ban on adult content and the shitty algorithm is still up unfortunately, which won't win people back that either left or were forced out, and despite claims that nothing will change we've all heard that song and dance before. The fate and longevity of the site is still up in the air, and many, especially those among the fandomsphere, are worried what this means. Tumblr might not have been originally created to be for fandom use, but fandom did migrate there and it became one of the biggest platforms to host fannish content and it's what caused its rise in popularity. But without it, where would people go? There is no other site that is comparable to it. I've said this before, but ideally we need a solution that is similar to that of AO3/OTW where a non-profit fandom platform is created by fans for fans, but realistically I know it isn't that simple. So for right now, it's just a big question mark of what the future holds.
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Laura: The Good Place: Quoteviolateraindrop on August 16th, 2019 08:08 pm (UTC)
I remember finding ThinkGeek and admiring the merch. Shipping and import taxes would have been more expensive than the items I wanted to buy, but merch like that wasn't available in Germany back then. Things have definitely improved and I have seen some of the products sold on ThinkGeek in German stores. There are probably a ton of other stores now, but it's always weird to see an established company disappear.

Tumblr was "the next generation PDF"
What is that even supposed to mean?
I've seen somewhere that Automattic is rather picky when it comes to acquire companies, so I wonder what their plan is.

we need a solution that is similar to that of AO3/OTW
I agree, but I also see how it'll be hard to implement. Pillowfort wanted to be an alternative, but never really took off.
Renée: Elementary. Joan Watson.rogueslayer452 on August 16th, 2019 09:05 pm (UTC)
Yeah, when I discovered ThinkGeek years ago I thought it was fantastic since I saw things I didn't see before. But my visits ended up dwindling over the years because a lot of the stuff was too expensive and I kept waiting to see if the prices would be knocked down or they would just be out of stock. ThinkGeek still has their physical stores up, wherever they are located, just their own online store closed. And like you said, though, a lot that you could find on their store you could find elsewhere for a cheaper price.

What is that even supposed to mean?

I honestly don't know. I don't think they even knew. Perhaps they thought that gifs were similar to PDF? But still that makes no sense because they're not even related. I think they were just saying random things but didn't really understand what they were saying, which is kind of obvious since they clearly didn't understand what Tumblr was.

I've seen somewhere that Automattic is rather picky when it comes to acquire companies, so I wonder what their plan is.

I heard that aside from Wordpress, they don't really own anything else, so that makes sense. But it does make me curious what the future will be.

I agree, but I also see how it'll be hard to implement. Pillowfort wanted to be an alternative, but never really took off.

I think Pillowfort had good intentions at first, but aside from it not taking off I've heard unfavorable things about those who run it, specifically with how they chose to run it (i.e. vague TOS, moral policing, etc) which is nagl. It's why if there is ever to be an attempt of making an alternative fandom platform for everyone it needs to have the right people behind it that know how to create a website and maintain it. I would want those at OTW to help with this, those who probably helped create AO3 since they have experience of understanding how this is to work.
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~*Suzy Q*~blakmagjick on August 16th, 2019 08:16 pm (UTC)
I haven't been a fan of ThinkGeek for a while...sadly. Cause they did have a lot of awesome stuff...I do still have a bunch of things from that site around my house.
The GameStop shops just weren't as good IMO.
Renée: Rey. Child of the Desert.rogueslayer452 on August 16th, 2019 09:11 pm (UTC)
They really did, but every time I looked, aside from getting some stuff from newer releases (Marvel, Star Wars, etc), they didn't really update much of their merchandising, which sucked. I always kept checking to see if there were in stock or if their prices had gone down, but they never did. :/ It also seems like they are severely downsizing their section at GameStop from what they used to have, with only the popular things and none of the other cool things they used to have.

It's kind of like how I felt about Her Universe stuff. I liked her website when it first launched, but now it seems the stuff sold is more pricey and cheaply made than how it used to be, which is a bummer.
Profiterole_profiterole_ on August 16th, 2019 08:28 pm (UTC)
I knew about Tumblr, but not about the other info. Thanks for the update! :-)
Renée: Inara Serra. Smile.rogueslayer452 on August 16th, 2019 09:11 pm (UTC)
You're welcome. :)
author_by_night: LeslieBen by nuv0le_rapideauthor_by_night on August 16th, 2019 08:37 pm (UTC)
I've said this before, but ideally we need a solution that is similar to that of AO3/OTW where a non-profit fandom platform is created by fans for fans,

That's exactly what we need, a very similar concept by fans for fans, rather than finding homes on sites that don't really care about fandom, or that aren't really fan specific. But you're exactly right, it just isn't that simple.
Renéerogueslayer452 on August 16th, 2019 09:32 pm (UTC)
Yeah, you would need the right people to be part of the process, people with knowledge and experience with making websites, who understand the ins and outs of how to go about things, etc. In theory it would be wonderful to have a fandom platform that isn't beholden to any corporation wanting to monetize off of it, but creating a non-profit fandom platform would be trickier than just creating a normal website. There's a lot more to it than many think, especially if this is going to be something that gains a lot of traffic from use.
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orangerfulorangerful on August 16th, 2019 08:43 pm (UTC)
I had a bad feeling about ThinkGeek earlier this year when I got a gift card and went to browse and lots of things were sold out and didn't seem to be getting replenished or even replaced. I did manage to snag a few things during the moving sale, but most of the stuff I wanted was already gone. :\

Wondering how much longer Tumblr has for this world...
Renéerogueslayer452 on August 16th, 2019 09:18 pm (UTC)
Yeah, that was always my problem with ThinkGeek. There would be something I wanted but it would be sold out, and it would take forever for it to be restocked, if it ever did. And yet they just kept the "sold out" picture there whenever I kept coming back to check. And things I kept holding off of because they were too pricey, but anytime there was a sale happening it would instantly be sold out. So I think they weren't that great with keeping up with that, which is probably one of the reasons for this move from their own site to join with GameStop. It also seems that they are downsizing their merch over there for only the popular stuff, which also sucks because I did like finding the more obscure random things.

Wondering how much longer Tumblr has for this world...

It will either disappear or fade into obscurity, much like LJ because fandom moved from LJ long ago (for valid reasons at the time) and yet we're still here. It just really depends....
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icecoldrain: Stock - Today's canceled; go to sleepicecoldrain on August 17th, 2019 03:28 am (UTC)
I've never checked out ThinkGeek but it's weird that they've integrated with GameStop when GameStop has been having a lot of problems for some time and people who work there say they don't expect it to be open much longer. I wonder if it'll go online only as time goes on like Blockbuster did.

Tumblr was "the next generation PDF"
I'm so confused. What is that even supposed to mean? I'm trying to think of what a next gen PDF would be and I'm thinking of some fancier and snazzy PDF land of some sort and def not tumblr.
Renéerogueslayer452 on August 17th, 2019 03:41 am (UTC)
Huh, interesting. No wonder that's why I saw so many comments re: GameStop being horrible. Perhaps this was a decision in thinking that ThinkGeek might save GameStop? I know that GameStop has Funko Pops in their stores to help sales, but obviously that's not enough so clearly they are struggling and need more help in that department. But idk, it'll be sad if both go under if this doesn't work.

I'm so confused. What is that even supposed to mean? I'm trying to think of what a next gen PDF would be and I'm thinking of some fancier and snazzy PDF land of some sort and def not tumblr.

I don't think they even knew what they meant. It puzzled everyone who was at that conference. I think it was just Yahoo attempting to sound "smart" and "business savvy" when in reality they were just saying nonsense since they had no idea what they were talking about. It's hilarious looking back now at the failed promises and talks that Yahoo did years ago, clearly it didn't work out for them because they were so full of shit. This is why big companies buying things they don't understand never works out.
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Jessicaimpala_chick on August 17th, 2019 08:36 pm (UTC)
The Tumblr news is quite crazy. I wonder what Wordpress intends to do with it.
Renéerogueslayer452 on August 17th, 2019 11:07 pm (UTC)
That's what many are wondering, as well. Considering how badly Yahoo/Verizon completely fucked things up, the expectations are pretty damn low.
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Avox in Arcadia: Miss Edithperpetual on August 18th, 2019 03:27 am (UTC)
Aw man. I hadn't heard about ThinkGeek until now. What a shame, especially missing the clearances.
Renéerogueslayer452 on August 18th, 2019 04:43 am (UTC)
It's pretty disheartening. I'm sad that I didn't know when the clearance was happening either, because there were things I had eyed for some time that I would've gotten a chance to finally get. I'm sure I can probably find them elsewhere, but still. It would've been the only time I could have bought them for cheap on ThinkGeek, lol.
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Nina: <ouat> redhoneymink on August 18th, 2019 10:23 am (UTC)
I deleted my tumblr a while ago out of anger (and am only sorry that I didn't save a few artworks). But like somebody else already mentioned... the whole nipple/porn-ban failure? I had made screencap collages of 'Reign' for while... and a lot of them got flagged just because I assume I used filters that ultimately made the picture more peach/rose tinted, so the algorithm must have flagged them as fleshtoned = nudity. Then you can ask for an inquest to have the flag removed and I did so. Yes, that removed the flag from the single entries but my tumblr as a whole still had a flag on it for possible inappropriate/sexual content. What's up with that? I was done.
Renée: BSG. Natalie is not pleased.rogueslayer452 on August 18th, 2019 07:15 pm (UTC)
Their algorithm is such a flawed, broken system that was implemented to basically flag anything that was viewed inappropriate, even if it actually isn't. It's selective nature is dangerous and has gotten many innocent posts and blogs flagged for no reason. What's ironic is aside from the invasive porn bots that everyone wanted gone and begged the staff to do something about to no avail, this wasn't really an issue for years until Yahoo/Verizon realized they couldn't make a profit where "explicit content" existed, so they censored things (aka changing things they promised not to change), only for it to backfire immensely. Like censorship always does. Keep in mind this ban was done at the end of last year, and then now Yahoo/Verizon ending up losing a lot of money in a quick amount of time and sold it only months after that. But still, the damage was done for many people and with good reason. Plus, the whole "female-presenting nipples" explanation is just absolutely sexist on every level, that even they mocked people criticizing that aspect, which was nagl.

I want to hope that under new ownership that this ban will be lifted, but from what I've read so far there's no plans on doing that. :/